Originally posted by sgdiehard:
can explain what is "ideologically communist"?
Hmm....characteristics of communist state...
Any public Election for their official representitive?
Freedom of Religion practice in question...catholics bishop are appoint by central govt.
Still struggling to contain Tibet and Xinjiang....
state own propaganda machine.
Originally posted by lionnoisy:people wont go to a place without jobs and other opportunity they want,
be it study,mediacl treatment,safety ,fresh air etc.
Do u want SG currently a country of 3.3 million of citizens only
or a country of 5 million population with additional 500,000 PR and
1.2 million FT?
3.3 million v 5 million.Think about it.
3.3 enuf la. 6.5 million, u siao bo? Dicks and breasts will be rubbing each other in the mrts during peak hours u knw.
Originally posted by Arapahoe:
Hmm....characteristics of communist state...Any public Election for their official representitive?
Freedom of Religion practice in question...catholics bishop are appoint by central govt.
Still struggling to contain Tibet and Xinjiang....
state own propaganda machine.
agree with you that in a communist state, there is no public election of governmental representative, and there is no official freedom of religion. I will add that decisions in communist state are made by the party rather than the parliament. The country is supposed to be run by communist idealogy.
However, Communist idealogy was meant to take from the have and give to the have not, to prevent exploitation of the underpriviledged, narrow the gap of the rich and the poor, and it is ideal, but it is not realistic.
today, you can't preach other religion in a religious state, such as those in the ME; countries without public election are called dictatorship, and those with elections results rigged by vote buying are not much of a democracy.
My question was referring to the statement "Mainland China can never become a real superpower if they continue to believe in Communism." The real problem is that China's communism is not the true communism that strive for even distribution of wealth for its people. China will be a power the international community cannot ignore, whether you call it superpower or not.
Originally posted by Rock^Star:
3.3 enuf la. 6.5 million, u siao bo? Dicks and breasts will be rubbing each other in the mrts during peak hours u knw.
No need to wait for peak hours.
Originally posted by NaCha:Those men-in-white will continue to be in power as long as within these few years or months, more foreigners are being converted to citizens.
“They” will vote those scums out of gratitude!
Most likely this is the reason why the miw are so into getting more and more foreigners here knowing they cannot rely on locals anymore.
Originally posted by OHSheet:
HOW??? already happening
cannot tahan lol
the real benefits of foreigners is to keep wages in singapore low so that foreign investors will be attracted to come here cos of our low wage level, yet docile and good hardworking sg workers. The bonus is most singaporeans are bilingual.
That's why they let loose of the ir foreign labour policy to let so many foreigners to some to singapore.
They often say that we need foreigners to take up jobs that sg dun want. But 1 million plus foreigners?
Pathetic that many sgreans are brainwashed to believe in this.
Originally posted by mlmersrlosers:the real benefits of foreigners is to keep wages in singapore low so that foreign investors will be attracted to come here cos of our low wage level, yet docile and good hardworking sg workers. The bonus is most singaporeans are bilingual.
That's why they let loose of the ir foreign labour policy to let so many foreigners to some to singapore.
They often say that we need foreigners to take up jobs that sg dun want. But 1 million plus foreigners?
Pathetic that many sgreans are brainwashed to believe in this.
Guess the mercenary miw always do things, create policies to benefit themselves more than locals.
Originally posted by Arapahoe:
Hmm....characteristics of communist state...Any public Election for their official representitive?
Freedom of Religion practice in question...catholics bishop are appoint by central govt.
Still struggling to contain Tibet and Xinjiang....
state own propaganda machine.
Actually if you checked with your Chinese colleagues, i'm quite sure you would find quite a bit of resentment about how the Chinese government treat the minorities in Xinjiang and Tibet better (Extra points for minorities entering universities, and it's not so easy for police to jail minorities)
I have my doubts on why the disturbances in Xinjiang and Tibet seems so well timed to when Bejing's holding an important event.
I certainly do not dispute the other facts you've brought up but i have my reservations on whether the recent problems in Tibet and Xinjiang really reflect a geninue inability for Beijing to treat its minorities well or a deliberate attempt to cause instability.
After all, a lot of countries going to be quite happy when there's instability in China.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:Actually if you checked with your Chinese colleagues, i'm quite sure you would find quite a bit of resentment about how the Chinese government treat the minorities in Xinjiang and Tibet better (Extra points for minorities entering universities, and it's not so easy for police to jail minorities)
I have my doubts on why the disturbances in Xinjiang and Tibet seems so well timed to when Bejing's holding an important event.
I certainly do not dispute the other facts you've brought up but i have my reservations on whether the recent problems in Tibet and Xinjiang really reflect a geninue inability for Beijing to treat its minorities well or a deliberate attempt to cause instability.
After all, a lot of countries going to be quite happy when there's instability in China.
well the chinese government may applied economics incentives but it does little to social cohersion...if you read news the repeated reason is always about Han chinese moving into minority area affecting lifestyle.
Its one aspect for government to recognizes the different ethnicity in China is another to be aware of their live style...I am sure there are deeper social issued such as mixed married and religion is another big issued with the chinese government.
much like PRC FT moving to Singapore encroaching citizens living quarters and not able to converse with English given that there are non Chinese speaking citizens. I mean you would have the social awareness that you don't bringing pork to a meal shared with muslim because it is offensive.
These are acceptance of differences and awareness that social policies need to instill thru educating and rise awareness, and not just about these belong to China...thats generic.
Originally posted by angel3070:Singapore citizens turning to minority soon?
Latest statistics: Citizens constitute only 63 per cent of Singapore’s population
September 28, 2009
From our Correspondent
According to the 2009 Population Trends report, Singapore’s total population at end-June was 4.99 million with 3.73 million Singapore residents and 1.25 million non-residents.
Though the number of PRs and citizens are not revealed, the National Population Secretariat puts the figures for the number of PRs at 0.48 million and citizens at 3.16 million:
This means that only 63.3 per cent of Singapore’s population are citizens with the number of non-Singaporeans, including PRs growing fast.
There are about 15,000 new births in 2008 and 100,000 new citizens and PRs. For every citizen born in Singapore, there are 6.7 PR and new citizen.
If the population growth and intake of foreigners remain at the same rate, there will be 1 million new citizens and PRs in 10 years time with only 150,000 births.
The percentage of Singapore citizens will decrease to 50 per cent or less if the government continues to “import” foreigners at such a rapid rate.
The relentless influx of foreigners had led to rampant inflation, sky-rocketing of prices of HDB flats and a stagnation of the wages of the lower-income group.
A recent report released by property company ERA revealed that 40 per cent of the buyers of HDB resale flats are foreigners.
The lower income group has also seen their salaries stagnate or even declined over the last decade due to the easily availability of cheap foreign labor who flocked to Singapore to earn a living.
The rising resentment and disgruntlement on the ground against the government’s liberal immigration policy had prompted Prime Minister Lee to reassure Singaporeans lately that he will “slow down” the intake of foreigners. However, he was quick to add that the policy will remain essentially unchanged though it will be tweaked.
With no opposition in Parliament, the ruling party is given complete power and autonomy to govern the nation as it likes. Singaporeans are completely under the mercy of the PAP. Unless there is a change in status quo, Singaporeans should be mentally prepared to live with more foreigners in their midst in the future.
Reference:
1. Population Trends Report 2009
2. National Population Secretariat
If based on the 2009 statistics, it is confirmed that Singapore Citizens make-up only 63.3% of the entire population, what if the baseline is moved back to 1970 or 1989 ?
Using the ‘Statistics Timeline of Population Census’ (*1) - the rate of increase in the number of citizens to the total population ratios during 1989, 1999 and 2009 - will reveal a more shocking trend.
From 1970 to 1989, the increase in citizens to the total population had reflected closely to the natural birth rate, showing the slow growth - (low birth rate and tight immigration rules) - of only 634,000 over a period of 19 years.
From the data reviewed, one will notice that the percentage of citizens to the Total Population is declining through the years.
1970 - Total Population Nos: 2.074.5 - * - No of Citizens: 2,013.6 - * - 97.064%
1989 - Total Population Nos: 2,930.9 - * - No. of Citizens: 2,647.6 - * - 90.334%
1999 - Total Population Nos: 3,958.7 - * - No of Citizens: 3,229.7 - * - 81.585%
2009 - Total Population Nos: 4,987.6 - * - No of Citizens: 3,733.9 - * - 74.863%
From 1989 to 2009, the increase in new citizens showed a steep growth that can only be from a liberalised entry of foreigners - amounting to a total of 1,086.3 million, which form about 41% of the number of citizens in census year 1989.
If 1970 is used as a baseline, the increase in citizens between 1979 to 2009 will amount to 1,720.3 million of new citizens arriving since 1971 onwards.
This new citizens will number 85.43% on the total number of Citizens in 1979.
If population arrival is used to influence the Elections Results, coupled with the total grip on government machineries to block the legitimate political activities of all Singaporeans, plus the total control of print and broadcast media, and further boosted by the political gerrymeandering prior to and during Elections - do we need to wonder how the Ruling Political Party managed to keep itself in power for 52 years ?
If I remembered correctly, the population must have growth by 1 m over the past 10 years. At the low birth rate over these years, the population growth must be due to high number of PR intake.
As citizen, we entitled to know the make up of these PR likes country, age, education, race, etc The attibutes of these PR intakes had a long term impact to Singapore future in term of their quality, coutry or origin. I am currently working in China and I have many Chinese friends who received PR but return to China for work and residential. Singapore is not a prefer place for many of these Chinese but a safe haven should there be uncertainty in China.
On the other hand, I know of many past Indian colleagues who not only make their home in Singaore but brought along the entire village mates, friends when they settled into this country.