Citizens constitute only 63% of Singapore’s population
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Originally posted by gasband:
oh so colony can welcome people from outside. State cannot.... hmmm.... wow, i understand something new today... weird my dictionary did not define colony and state the way you do.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
but do we need so many foreigners in sg now, tell us. what is really the fuss about?Errr...i was not the one making a fuss. the threadstarter was the one making a fuss about having so many foreigners in sg.
And in reply to your question on whether we need so many foreigners,
1. I have never said we need foreigners. I only said we should welcome them if they come.
2. I fight hard and work hard to prove to my boss that paying me more is worth it because my work output is way better than getting a cheaper option from India or Philippines. I prove it, I do not go to my boss and whine to him that he should not hire foreigners.
3. Foreigners are gonna come regardless of what you say. And you said there are too many? Then tell me how many is too many and how many is enough, and how many is too little? And why.
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Originally posted by gasband:
Errr...i was not the one making a fuss. the threadstarter was the one making a fuss about having so many foreigners in sg.
And in reply to your question on whether we need so many foreigners,
1. I have never said we need foreigners. I only said we should welcome them if they come.
2. I fight hard and work hard to prove to my boss that paying me more is worth it because my work output is way better than getting a cheaper option from India or Philippines. I prove it, I do not go to my boss and whine to him that he should not hire foreigners.
3. Foreigners are gonna come regardless of what you say. And you said there are too many? Then tell me how many is too many and how many is enough, and how many is too little? And why.
From the way you post, you are making a fuss out of it. I did not say that by stating there are many foreigners they will stop coming. Come on, don't give me the crap! As for you, be prepared, the foreigners may upgrade and prove they are better than you and take over you one day, hahahha.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
From the way you post, you are making a fuss out of it.
Wow, how well you perceive things. Haha.
I did not say that by stating there are many foreigners they will stop coming. Come on, don't give me the crap!
I did not say you said that. But you did ask "Do we need so many foreigners in Singapore now?". So i just asked back, how many is too many? How many is too little? How many is just enough? Since you asked me that question means you think there are too many foreigners in Singapore and hopefully to make your statement credible, you must know, surely!, how many is too many?
As for you, be prepared, the foreigners may upgrade and prove they are better than you and take over you one day, hahahha.
As for myself, thanks for your warning. Yes it may happen. And you know what in this sentence of yours, you just answered your questions why many of the foreigners are here. They have proved they are better. You said that, not me and one day, if they proved they are better, I have got nothing to say, my friend.
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Originally posted by gasband:
Errr...i was not the one making a fuss. the threadstarter was the one making a fuss about having so many foreigners in sg.
Seem to be missing entire point of article in first post.
So you PAP supporter?
I noticed you like to defend PAP rubbish policies.
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Originally posted by gasband:
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Seem to be missing entire point of article in first post.
So you PAP supporter?
I noticed you like to defend PAP rubbish policies.
hahahah
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Seem to be missing entire point of article in first post.
So you PAP supporter?
I noticed you like to defend PAP rubbish policies.
Maybe after going through so many rounds and rounds of discussions, i would accept that maybe we have long gone out of point. Well I accept that.
Me, a PAP supporter? I can safely say I am neither a PAP supporter nor a PAP basher. Maybe I belong to a group of people that is very commonly found amongst SIngaporeans. The attitude we have towards the government is commonly known as apathy. Simply put, we dun care.
The government has laid a solid foundation and at the same time, I do admit they have screwed up many Singaporeans, Singaporeans like my uncle who cannot make ends meet. Many people would then ask, there you see, then why dun you screw the government for making things difficult for your uncle? Well you see, my uncle cannot make ends meet and guess what, he spends $200 every month on 4D and smokes 2 packets of Marlborough every day. He even needs to borrow money from my Grandfather. From anyone;s point of view, we will blame the government for making everything expensive, that is why a person like my uncle who only finish Sec 2 cannot make a living. But has my Uncle truly helped himself by not buying 4D and stop smoking or smoke lesser? He has not, and if he doesnt help himself, how can he blame anyone else?
Hope this further clarifies my stand on governmental issues and policies.
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Originally posted by meltz:
we are chinapore we are chinapore …
we wont
stand together hear the lion roar coz no more singapore soon need to change national anthem. -
Originally posted by gasband:
Maybe after going through so many rounds and rounds of discussions, i would accept that maybe we have long gone out of point. Well I accept that.
Me, a PAP supporter? I can safely say I am neither a PAP supporter nor a PAP basher. Maybe I belong to a group of people that is very commonly found amongst SIngaporeans. The attitude we have towards the government is commonly known as apathy. Simply put, we dun care.
The government has laid a solid foundation and at the same time, I do admit they have screwed up many Singaporeans, Singaporeans like my uncle who cannot make ends meet. Many people would then ask, there you see, then why dun you screw the government for making things difficult for your uncle? Well you see, my uncle cannot make ends meet and guess what, he spends $200 every month on 4D and smokes 2 packets of Marlborough every day. He even needs to borrow money from my Grandfather. From anyone;s point of view, we will blame the government for making everything expensive, that is why a person like my uncle who only finish Sec 2 cannot make a living. But has my Uncle truly helped himself by not buying 4D and stop smoking or smoke lesser? He has not, and if he doesnt help himself, how can he blame anyone else?
Hope this further clarifies my stand on governmental issues and policies.
Unfortunately, your uncle does not represent all those people who cannot make ends meet. So to say not everyone who cannot make ends meet is a gambler like your uncle, understand??? -
Originally posted by gasband:
Simply put, we dun care.
Don't care than why you defend PAP rubbish policies?
Tell me spread PAP propaganda crap in forum?
I don't do favours for PAP.
I won't help to spread their fucking propaganda here.
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Originally posted by OHSheet: soon need to change national anthem.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
hey, don't forget the indian, the bangla, the philippino, the burmese....can design a new flag to accommodate all?sorry la.. i tried searching for "indiapore" on google images but no results.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Unfortunately, your uncle does not represent all those people who cannot make ends meet. So to say not everyone who cannot make ends meet is a gambler like your uncle, understand???haha i marvel at your perception of what people say. I did not say everyone who cannot make ends meet is a gambler. I only say, if you dun help yourself, how can you blame others. in Singapore, there are the REALLY poor and there are those who DESERVES to be poor. I met an uncle in a Chai Chee rental one room flat while distributing groceries, he is almost 70. His wife was just warded in hospital but he seems cheerful as he was repairing his bicycle. His bicycle enables him to ride around collecting old stuff to sell to earn that little amount of money. He is old, uneducated and no one wants to employ him but he do whatever he can to survive. This uncle is REALLY poor and deserves help.
But you know, this uncle has a son. The son is 43. Secondary school education. While his father is working collecting old stuff. He chooses to sleep at home and blames people for not wanting to employ low educated people. You know what, if his Father can find a way to survive while all he, an abled 43 yr old man can just sleep at home for the last 2 years, he DESERVES to be poor.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Don't care than why you defend PAP rubbish policies?
Tell me spread PAP propaganda crap in forum?
I don't do favours for PAP.
I won't help to spread their fucking propaganda here.
Sorry i never defend. I only wanted a reasonable explanation why having foreigners in Singapore is no good. To me, a lot of rants here do not seem to be targetted at the foreigners but instead at the government. I always believe in peaceful and reasonable discussions. Ghandi was against the colonial masters then. Did Ghandi go around fucking them? No, he sought his own peaceful way to spread his propaganda, I think that is more effective.
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Originally posted by gasband:
haha i marvel at your perception of what people say. I did not say everyone who cannot make ends meet is a gambler. I only say, if you dun help yourself, how can you blame others. in Singapore, there are the REALLY poor and there are those who DESERVES to be poor. I met an uncle in a Chai Chee rental one room flat while distributing groceries, he is almost 70. His wife was just warded in hospital but he seems cheerful as he was repairing his bicycle. His bicycle enables him to ride around collecting old stuff to sell to earn that little amount of money. He is old, uneducated and no one wants to employ him but he do whatever he can to survive. This uncle is REALLY poor and deserves help.
But you know, this uncle has a son. The son is 43. Secondary school education. While his father is working collecting old stuff. He chooses to sleep at home and blames people for not wanting to employ low educated people. You know what, if his Father can find a way to survive while all he, an abled 43 yr old man can just sleep at home for the last 2 years, he DESERVES to be poor.
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who remembers what LHL had to say..
do note: pun intended
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I do think so to a certain degree. I am trying to challenge the notion that all poor people are poor because of the the way the country is run. Is that true or is that only partially true?
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Originally posted by OHSheet:
who remembers what LHL had to say..
do note: pun intended
Correct me if I am wrong, I thought I read that it is the old senile oppressor lee who said it.
Great pic, I love it!
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Correct me if I am wrong, I thought I read that it is the old senile oppressor lee who said it.
Great pic, I love it!
I think its senile's son,LHL. when he give the speech for GE in 2006- try to scare ppl to vote for him ma. I rmber its him
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Originally posted by OHSheet:
I think its senile's son,LHL. when he give the speech for GE in 2006- try to scare ppl to vote for him ma. I rmber its him
REally.Oh, lee hsien loong, wo hao pa, wo pa wo bu yao tou ni yi piao wo hui bei ni song qu pie de guo jia dang yong ren. Scare, i very scared????
hahahah, crap la. As someone without any PM calibre can only resort to such despicable scare tactic.
Shame on you, lee hsien loong.
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which other country has a ratio like ours huh?
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
which other country has a ratio like ours huh?
chinapore.
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Singapore does not have much of an identity to speak of, it's only 45 years old. or is it 44?
It is a nation of immigrants anyway.
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Originally posted by LordoftheLamers:
Singapore does not have much of an identity to speak of, it's only 45 years old. or is it 44?
It is a nation of immigrants anyway.
So what are you trying to tell us?