Singapore will never produce a Nobel Prize winner.
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In terms of technological/scientific development, it's my theory that Asians will never be creative enough to produce something so innovative that it could be qualified for a Nobel prize, unless they're immersed in an utterly different, liberalized environment in the western nations.
http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profilesofasianleaders/tp/nobelprizewinners.htm
Look at the list here, all of them were awarded for some kind of exceptional political effort, or effort for world peace. Will a Singaporean be awarded for political effort? HA! Fat chance. Even our best politicians are utter deadbeats. Effort for world peace? Singaporeans are only capable of responding "Come to Singapore lah!" and then start to complain when they have too many foreigners coming to Singapore for that aforementioned peace.
What of technological development? Look at the history of technological development in ancient China. Only the inventor of paper, Imperial Court official Tsai Lun is known. What of the compass, rudder, gunpowder, silk, or even umbrella? All unknown! The Chinese were more preoccupied with the obsessive chase to excel at the Imperial exams and become a government official. Even popular Chinese martial arts folklore will always talk about the guy with the awesome manual who will learn an amazing skill from it and beat the shit out of everyone else. Technological inventions? What? Nobody cares about that! Let's all just become an official and grow fat from corruption!
Do you see the parallels between ancient China and Singapore now? Singaporeans would love to get a government or PSC scholarship, get an education for free and fly back for an iron rice bowl in the civil service. Even better, become a Member of Parliament or Prime Minister! Who cares about researching technology?! That's not as productive as being a doctor or a lawyer.
You may say, but NEWater! What about those Asians in the western environment you speak of. Have they won any Nobel prizes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_Americans#Science
One of the notable Nobel prize winner to cite: Steven Chu, present United States Secretary of Energy. His whole family came from China, and curiously enough, the whole lot of them became professors. All his siblings are professors, and even his aunt who came from China with her feet mini-bound, also, became a professor. -
Originally posted by NEWater:
In terms of technological/scientific development, it's my theory that Asians will never be creative enough to produce something so innovative that it could be qualified for a Nobel prize, unless they're immersed in an utterly different, liberalized environment in the western nations.
http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profilesofasianleaders/tp/nobelprizewinners.htm
Look at the list here, all of them were awarded for some kind of exceptional political effort, or effort for world peace. Will a Singaporean be awarded for political effort? HA! Fat chance. Even our best politicians are utter deadbeats. Effort for world peace? Singaporeans are only capable of responding "Come to Singapore lah!" and then start to complain when they have too many foreigners coming to Singapore for that aforementioned peace.
What of technological development? Look at the history of technological development in ancient China. Only the inventor of paper, Imperial Court official Tsai Lun is known. What of the compass, rudder, gunpowder, silk, or even umbrella? All unknown! The Chinese were more preoccupied with the obsessive chase to excel at the Imperial exams and become a government official. Even popular Chinese martial arts folklore will always talk about the guy with the awesome manual who will learn an amazing skill from it and beat the shit out of everyone else. Technological inventions? What? Nobody cares about that! Let's all just become an official and grow fat from corruption!
Do you see the parallels between ancient China and Singapore now? Singaporeans would love to get a government or PSC scholarship, get an education for free and fly back for an iron rice bowl in the civil service. Even better, become a Member of Parliament or Prime Minister! Who cares about researching technology?! That's not as productive as being a doctor or a lawyer.
You may say, but NEWater! What about those Asians in the western environment you speak of. Have they won any Nobel prizes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_Americans#Science
One of the notable Nobel prize winner to cite: Steven Chu, present United States Secretary of Energy. His whole family came from China, and curiously enough, the whole lot of them became professors. All his siblings are professors, and even his aunt who came from China with her feet mini-bound, also, became a professor.Don't agree with above thesis.
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can't speak for others....but we just don't have the "Research" culture I mean look at the researcher for Dolly most of them left sg....guess they want answer before research....!!
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Don't worry, we can always buy one. Or two.
Offer more money to these Nobel Prize winners and they will come.
We offer top money for top talents.
Really.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Don't agree with above thesis.
Can only agree that TS needs a visit to IMH. -
I am aiming for nobel prize for world PEACE efforts
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Why never google?
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ok lah
this is not bery impt oso wat.
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Come to think about it, Singapore has not produced any notable serial killers too...why arh?
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bcos they can be serial killer, oredi caught and hanged laio mah
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b4 they can be serial killer, oredi caught and hanged liao mah
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Serial killer kill for fun or psychological reasons one....SG so far got such cases mah?
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at least we have some entries in the darwin awards. . . .
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I agree.
We need to survive in this harsh world. We need $$$. Who will pay billions of dollars in singapore to look at worms for 20 years!? Research projects are most likely truncated when there is no significant results seen within a year. That is how singapore work.
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I don't really think it's somehow a racial thing.
That's like saying Hwa Chong, River Valley and RI produces top students because it has an excellent educational system.
But anyone familar with the PSLE system could tell when the system send students who are already top of their classes to a single or a few selected institution of course it's going to continue producing top scholars.
Currently any significant breakthrough in scientific research requires a massive amount of funding because of the cost to run the experiments, and only the Western countries could really afford to give the universities that sort of money and most importantly pay salaries that can't be matched anywhere else in the world.
Your average brilliant Chinese and Indian researcher who is tired of facing limited budgets and lousy salaries would naturally be attracted to the West because as a fact it just pays better and they get to conduct experiments/buy equipment that their own local universites could never afford.
This creates a negative feedback loop( i hope i used the correct term here!), as the top brains from the "backward" Asian countries flow to the Western countries continue to fuel innovations and scientific progression thus providing the patents and inventions to continue paying top dollar for them.
And of course, there is the quality of peers they are surrounded by. For scientists the work environment is more enjoyable if you're working together with people who are just as creative and intelligent as you yes?
I quote Fareed Zakaria from his book "The Post American World". There was a time where people thought Hinduism and Confucism were incompatible with Capitalism.
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Singaporeans so stupid how to be serial killer.
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Originally posted by Lokey:
I agree.
We need to survive in this harsh world. We need $$$. Who will pay billions of dollars in singapore to look at worms for 20 years!? Research projects are most likely truncated when there is no significant results seen within a year. That is how singapore work.
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Well that is the question of what come first? chicken or Egg? U can't always be thinking about Money and expect research result to yield Money...
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Originally posted by NEWater:
In terms of technological/scientific development, it's my theory that Asians will never be creative enough to produce something so innovative that it could be qualified for a Nobel prize, unless they're immersed in an utterly different, liberalized environment in the western nations.
http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profilesofasianleaders/tp/nobelprizewinners.htm
Look at the list here, all of them were awarded for some kind of exceptional political effort, or effort for world peace. Will a Singaporean be awarded for political effort? HA! Fat chance. Even our best politicians are utter deadbeats. Effort for world peace? Singaporeans are only capable of responding "Come to Singapore lah!" and then start to complain when they have too many foreigners coming to Singapore for that aforementioned peace.
What of technological development? Look at the history of technological development in ancient China. Only the inventor of paper, Imperial Court official Tsai Lun is known. What of the compass, rudder, gunpowder, silk, or even umbrella? All unknown! The Chinese were more preoccupied with the obsessive chase to excel at the Imperial exams and become a government official. Even popular Chinese martial arts folklore will always talk about the guy with the awesome manual who will learn an amazing skill from it and beat the shit out of everyone else. Technological inventions? What? Nobody cares about that! Let's all just become an official and grow fat from corruption!
Do you see the parallels between ancient China and Singapore now? Singaporeans would love to get a government or PSC scholarship, get an education for free and fly back for an iron rice bowl in the civil service. Even better, become a Member of Parliament or Prime Minister! Who cares about researching technology?! That's not as productive as being a doctor or a lawyer.
You may say, but NEWater! What about those Asians in the western environment you speak of. Have they won any Nobel prizes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_Americans#Science
One of the notable Nobel prize winner to cite: Steven Chu, present United States Secretary of Energy. His whole family came from China, and curiously enough, the whole lot of them became professors. All his siblings are professors, and even his aunt who came from China with her feet mini-bound, also, became a professor.i can somewhat agree with you. i mean, the way we live etc, its equal to 0
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The true character of the people is what kind of country that it has build for itself.
First of foremost will be the political culture that sets the tone and create the environment that challenges the status quo of everything - to have the young to ask questions, to have the people ask questions, to have transparency in the system, to have information available that lessons are learnt from past experiences, to have an environment that allows for unfettered creativities, to encourage the seeking of Truth.
Can we compare ourselves with the other First World Countries, where their systems may not be perfect, but at least will feature the political tolerance that guarantee the free space for the status quo to be challenged by the Citizens ?
If only LKY had believed in what he had held as his conviction as a small time politician, when he dared to preach to the Colonial Government and also to the Federal Government of Malaysia :-
"Let us get down to fundamentals. Is this an open, or is this a closed society? Is it a society where men can preach ideas - novel, unorthodox, heresies, to established churches and established governments - where there is a constant contest for men's hearts and minds on the basis of what is right, of what is just, of what is in the national interests, or is it a closed society where the mass media - the newspapaers, the journals, publications, TV, radio - either bound by sound or by sight, or both sound and sight, men's minds are fed with a constant drone of sycophantic support for a particular orthodox political philosophy? That is the first question we asked ourselves." - Lee Kuan Yew Dec 18, 1964 Malaysian Parliamentary Debates