IAEA urges Israel to allow nuclear inspection
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Only indulging with your preference to "talk song and sing cock" so that the dim light do not die off so quickly.
Your posts huh, now getting short, my headache also gone. Give you a pat on the head.
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
You insist on thinking religion is the root of the conflict. Israel exists, at least initially as a result of foreign intervention and enjoys the support of a foreign power that the people of the Arab countries have no love for.
Your arguments seemed to reinforce why they need to have nuclear weapons
Of course I support small nation Israel to have nuclear capability to destroy her numerically superior bullying neighbours.
It's up to Israel's hostile neighbours to help Israel keep her words of no first use policy - by not threatening Israel's peace and survival.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Of course I support small nation Israel to have nuclear capability to destroy her numerically superior bullying neighbours.
What about North Korea?
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
It's up to Israel's hostile neighbours to help Israel keep her words of no first use policy - by not threatening Israel's peace and survival.
Israel also just as hostile if not more hostile.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
What about North Korea?
Why do you sidetrack?
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Why do you sidetrack?
curious lor.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
curious lor.
Not a usual techniqe of a muslim?
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Not a usual techniqe of a muslim?
you anti-muslim on Hari Raya Aidilfitri?
so why you anti-islam?
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Originally posted by angel3070:
you anti-muslim on Hari Raya Aidilfitri?
so why you anti-islam?
....because islam is religion of peace and good muslims will kill other people or be killed to prove it.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
....because islam is religion of peace and good muslims will kill other people or be killed to prove it.
It is like Israeli military rabbi?
Military Rabbi Urged Troops to Show No Mercy in Gaza
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/26/military-rabbi-urged-troops-to-show-no-mercy-in-gaza/
UN says Israel should face war-crimes trial over Gaza
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Originally posted by angel3070:
It is like Israeli military rabbi?
Military Rabbi Urged Troops to Show No Mercy in Gaza
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/26/military-rabbi-urged-troops-to-show-no-mercy-in-gaza/
UN says Israel should face war-crimes trial over Gaza
That's right!
Show no mercy to enemies who vow to wipe Israel off the map.
UN has lost its credibility. No teeth. Dafour's situation is more dire.
Israel is able to take care of herself.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Show no mercy to enemies who vow to wipe Israel off the map.
The zionist ideology must go.
As long as Israel is an ethnic state, it will be forced to deepen the occupation and intensify its ethnic cleansing policies to prevent the emergence of genuine Palestinian political influence -- for the reasons I cite above and for many others I don’t. In truth, both a one-state and a genuine two-state arrangement are impossible given Israel’s determination to remain a Jewish state.
The obstacle to a solution, then, is not about dividing the land but about Zionism itself, the ideology of ethnic supremacism that is the current orthodoxy in Israel. As long as Israel is a Zionist state, its leaders will allow neither one state nor two real states.
The solution, therefore, reduces to the question of how to defeat Zionism. It just so happens that the best way this can be achieved is by confronting the illusions of the two-state dreamers and explaining why Israel is in permanent bad faith about seeking peace.
In other words, if we stopped distracting ourselves with the Holy Grail of the two-state solution, we might channel our energies into something more useful: discrediting Israel as a Jewish state, and the ideology of Zionism that upholds it. Eventually the respectable façade of Zionism might crumble.
http://www.jkcook.net/Articles2/0315.htm#Top
http://www.jkcook.net/Articles2/0296.htm#Top
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Dafour's situation is more dire.
Situation seems to be improving.
Darfur war over at least for now says departing UN chief
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gg7Z-medtPagPo1cWM6QBxme0v7A
As Darfur Fighting Diminishes, U.N. Officials Focus on the South of Sudan
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/28/world/africa/28darfur.html?hpw
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Your posts huh, now getting short, my headache also gone. Give you a pat on the head.
Ah Chia, you should keep the accolades to yourself for coming this far with the dim light that you have to guide you.What was done was simply to accomodate your inability to handle facts as published and accepted by historians.
Should it be concluded that you have decided to drop your positions concerning the statements that you prefer to use - to slant the facts to suit your skewed perceptions ?
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Situation seems to be improving.
Darfur war over at least for now says departing UN chief
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gg7Z-medtPagPo1cWM6QBxme0v7A
As Darfur Fighting Diminishes, U.N. Officials Focus on the South of Sudan
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/28/world/africa/28darfur.html?hpw
Peace talks to be held next month, after 6 years of war and 300,000 lives lost.
It's not over yet.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
The zionist ideology must go.
As long as Israel is an ethnic state, it will be forced to deepen the occupation and intensify its ethnic cleansing policies to prevent the emergence of genuine Palestinian political influence -- for the reasons I cite above and for many others I don’t. In truth, both a one-state and a genuine two-state arrangement are impossible given Israel’s determination to remain a Jewish state.
The obstacle to a solution, then, is not about dividing the land but about Zionism itself, the ideology of ethnic supremacism that is the current orthodoxy in Israel. As long as Israel is a Zionist state, its leaders will allow neither one state nor two real states.
The solution, therefore, reduces to the question of how to defeat Zionism. It just so happens that the best way this can be achieved is by confronting the illusions of the two-state dreamers and explaining why Israel is in permanent bad faith about seeking peace.
In other words, if we stopped distracting ourselves with the Holy Grail of the two-state solution, we might channel our energies into something more useful: discrediting Israel as a Jewish state, and the ideology of Zionism that upholds it. Eventually the respectable façade of Zionism might crumble.
http://www.jkcook.net/Articles2/0315.htm#Top
http://www.jkcook.net/Articles2/0296.htm#Top
You've two more articles that give hints about the destruction of Israel.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
The zionist ideology must go.
As long as Israel is an ethnic state, it will be forced to deepen the occupation and intensify its ethnic cleansing policies to prevent the emergence of genuine Palestinian political influence -- for the reasons I cite above and for many others I don’t. In truth, both a one-state and a genuine two-state arrangement are impossible given Israel’s determination to remain a Jewish state.
The obstacle to a solution, then, is not about dividing the land but about Zionism itself, the ideology of ethnic supremacism that is the current orthodoxy in Israel. As long as Israel is a Zionist state, its leaders will allow neither one state nor two real states.
The solution, therefore, reduces to the question of how to defeat Zionism. It just so happens that the best way this can be achieved is by confronting the illusions of the two-state dreamers and explaining why Israel is in permanent bad faith about seeking peace.
In other words, if we stopped distracting ourselves with the Holy Grail of the two-state solution, we might channel our energies into something more useful: discrediting Israel as a Jewish state, and the ideology of Zionism that upholds it. Eventually the respectable façade of Zionism might crumble.
http://www.jkcook.net/Articles2/0315.htm#Top
http://www.jkcook.net/Articles2/0296.htm#Top
Hello Ah Chia,
What do you mean in your statement that "Israel is an ethnic state" ?
What is your understanding of the word "ethnic" ?
What is "Zionist Ideology" ?
How do you understand "Zionism" as an "ideology" ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Hello Ah Chia,
What do you mean in your statement that "Israel is an ethnic state" ?
What is your understanding of the word "ethnic" ?
What is "Zionist Ideology" ?
How do you understand "Zionism" as an "ideology" ?
Don't bombard him with headache questions when all he ever wanted is to type like a woman.LOL.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Hello Ah Chia,
What do you mean in your statement that "Israel is an ethnic state" ?
What is your understanding of the word "ethnic" ?
What is "Zionist Ideology" ?
How do you understand "Zionism" as an "ideology" ?
huh! Uncle Chia is angel3070!!! omg, u old guys are going back to childish behavior... -
Originally posted by googoomuck:
You've two more articles that give hints about the destruction of Israel.
Where got? They talk about destruction of zionism ideology only. I also support the annihilation of zionism.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Ah Chia, you should keep the accolades to yourself for coming this far with the dim light that you have to guide you.What was done was simply to accomodate your inability to handle facts as published and accepted by historians.
Should it be concluded that you have decided to drop your positions concerning the statements that you prefer to use - to slant the facts to suit your skewed perceptions ?
What cock talking you?
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Where got? They talk about destruction of zionism ideology only. I also support the annihilation of zionism.
It does not matter what you support. The reestablishment of a homeland for the jewish people is a success.
Even the land seems to favour Jews. Israel flourished.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
As observers "without any interest in the Middle-east politics" - you and I can see the obvious difference.
Can those with direct interest see the differences ?
While religion is not the root of the Arab-Israeli conflict over the creation of the State of Israel, it has now evolved into a Jihad for the many Muslims across the globe - who were offended by the imposition of unequitable, illegal and total lack of justice in the treatment of the Palestinian people by the State of Israel.
The Muslim activists have used religion as a platform as a unifying call amongst their own faithfuls to stand up to the insufferable injustice practised by an arrogant Israel - with direct or implicit support from many Western Government.
It does not help when the political fight between the Israelis and the Palestinian Arabs have now been hijacked by Religious Fanatics with a larger agenda of annihilating the State of Israel and to create an Islamic Caliphate that stretched from the West Coast of Africa, across the Middle-east and Central Asia, and into the eastern most corner of Southeast Asia.
I do not know the answer to your first question, and i'm betting neither do you.
I think you're thinking only of Muslim fundamentalists/terrorists when you ask this question. Certainly there's cause to consider that, but i'm willing to consider that the current Israeli government, or at least people who have influence on the government too have a vested interest in keeping things this way.
I certainly have no objection to the second part of your statements.
Some of them no doubt have a desire to establish this caliphate. But how does telling these countries that they cannot have nuclear weapons because they may use it on Israel when Israel could use it on them with no fear of retaliation supposed to make them feel?
If Indonesia starts developing nuclear weapons but Malaysia and Singapore are told by the US, China and the UN that we cannot have it wouldn't you feel that it's injustice as well?
We're not even at odds with Indonesia, but we would still protest at this idea. What about the countries who saw what happened to Iraq and feared everyday that it would happen to them as well?
Would Israel have less incentive to bully the Palestinians if the US no longer support it with no questions asked.Would it then have more cause to try to reconcile differences with its neighbours when it doesn't feel so invulnerable?
I'm not asking for Israel to go totally passive and just tolerate bullying from its neighbours either. But what's happening now is the other extreme, that Israel need not fear any retaliation for its actions no matter how questionable.
You want the Middle East to acknowledge Israel, but that won't happen if Israel doesn't feel that it needs their acknowledgement.
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Other than the fallout and fear factor, conventional weapons can cause as much or more destruction as a nuclear weapon.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Do we need fences and concrete walls to hold a population captive ?
The PAP is more sophisticated in their methods then you can possibly imagine.
The minority groups have been politically disenfranchised by the standard political detoxification applied on every Singaporean, and have been further treated with more stringent and cautious policies to ensure that they do not become a force that will threaten Singapore and the politics of the PAP.
Surely, you are aware, or do you need it to be spelled out in this public forum ?
You should not count this option out too early.
What make you think that such options are not already considered in the studies made by the many "Think Tanks" under the auspices of the "Inner Circle" ?
The same had happened in the Middle-east too, where Jews familiar with their Arab neighbors were similarly protecting each other in areas where one is the majority.
The same can be said of Malaysians and Singaporeans - we were one and the same people of the same ethnic diversities, social customs, culture, cuisines, languages and dialects, religions, personal ambitions and dreams for the future generations - still politics have muddied the calm waters, with others insisting on taking the short cut to political power by hijacking the powers afforded from the pulpit.
In this day and age - can any single superpower guarantee our existence - other then the collective powers of all nations embracing the tenets of the United Nations ?
Singapore do not depend on one single superpower, but a balance of powers for our survival - and even then, we will have to consider that any such relationship will also have spill over benefits for our neighbors and that we are not singularly the sole-beneficiary of such a relationship.
This explains for the implicit tolerance of the existence of the US Military using Singapore facilities while in transit, and spreading the benefits of the logistical support to Indonesia and Malaysia despite their strong reservations that were expressed earlier.
Your question should be directed to LKY and the PAP - who have constantly reminded Singaporeans the need for Singapore to be vigilant, and mindful of the vulnerability of the past.
Although the events that led to the Singapore being kicked out of Malaysia - have seldom been addressed directly, this was done as a matter of deference to the sensitivities of perception and interpretations of those events - that will surely lead to acrimony with our neighbours.
The past have always been the basis of developing our present planning for the future threats that are to be expected.
Is this not the way forward in strategic planning ?
Is our population size so big ?
The size and quality of the SAF may provide a strategic edge when compared with the military force in the neighborhood.
Even when you dare to weild the big stick, do you think that the bigger neighbors will not have their own "Think Tanks" that would have studied the use of their large land space to absorb your entire SAF, stretching your manpower and resources thin as they draw you deeper into their hinterland ?
Can your small civilian population and economy support a NSF military force to sustain a long term strategic war designed to deplete your military manpower ?
Unfortunately, can the size of our population and the country sustain the SAF in any long term conflict - without the support of any big brother as the one that Israel has ?
When the opponent know that you are not prepared, or too eager to use the stick that they know you have - do you think that it will not weaken your political position when you are seen as nothing more then a "Paper Tiger" ?
This is a topic about Israel and i prefer not to get drawn in to a discussion about the PAP and LKY with you because i know from the history of this forum how it would end up.
But i do find it rather disgusting that you would compare us with the current state of the Palestinians. The majority of the population have never experienced constant blackouts and water cuts. Medicine, clean water and stable supply of food are still available to us.
You view our state as somehow comparable is because you cannot imagine the insecure feeling of not knowing when another country is just going to drive in with tanks and attack helicopters and bomb us with impundity.
Do i think our current state of affairs are satisfactory? No.
But i would never imagine comparing what we have to what the Palestinians are going through.
I have no interest in responding to the rest of your post because it reflects my point, we can't go about waving our sticks because we can't support such an endeavour. But that doesn't neccessary weaken our position either.