Opposition infighting
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when we talk about infighting, we really mean internal strife. like how chiam was ousted form the SDP he founded, how JBJ left WP, how the supposedly hopefuls of WP were ditching it for other parties. PAP doesn't even need to fix them. they'll kill off each other.
now we have infighting in the most literal sense, in PKMS. for those who hope singapore can execute a japanese style DPJ, think again. didn't someone just say PAP is safe for at least 2 general elections?
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A bit of negative news about opposition won't affect me.
Small propaganda tricks won't work on me.
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sure, it dun affect me too, afterall, what is oppositions in singapore
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Originally posted by angel7030:
sure, it dun affect me too, afterall, what is oppositions in singapore
What does a "hum" know about politics - especially a Taiwanese "hum" involving itself in Singapore politics ?Can the stupidity of a "hum" be affected except with something bigger ?
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which is why as much as i hate saying it, the MIW can deliver more for the country than the bloody opposition who cannot even get their house in order..
until the idiots out there like the SDP and PKMS sort out their own messes, and start behaving like mature people, the opposition movement is doomed
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Originally posted by Atobe:
What does a "hum" know about politics - especially a Taiwanese "hum" involving itself in Singapore politics ?Can the stupidity of a "hum" be affected except with something bigger ?
panting...uh!!!!! panting!! now cannot jog 4 km liao...unlike my teenage time..very tire..panting for air!!..Morning Uncle, aiya morning morning you humsup liao ar??
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Originally posted by angel7030:
panting...uh!!!!! panting!! now cannot jog 4 km liao...unlike my teenage time..very tire..panting for air!!..Morning Uncle, aiya morning morning you humsup liao ar??
No need to explain or give excuses for your panting so early in the morning.
Obviously you had to do it yourself, and have to run it yourself when all the men you meet have dysfunction when they see the "hum" in you.
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Originally posted by the Bear:
which is why as much as i hate saying it, the MIW can deliver more for the country than the bloody opposition who cannot even get their house in order..
until the idiots out there like the SDP and PKMS sort out their own messes, and start behaving like mature people, the opposition movement is doomed
It is amazing that your hatred in yourself for saying what you must say in support of the MIW - it cannot compare to your hatred which seems more passionate when addressing anything about the Opposition.
With supporters like you for the Opposition - who needs them to be successful.
Still sqatting on the fence, and unable to make an honest move - and prefer to be dishonest even with your own conscience ?
Can you be depended on for your views ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
It is amazing that your hatred in yourself for saying what you must say in support of the MIW - it cannot compare to your hatred which seems more passionate when addressing anything about the Opposition.
With supporters like you for the Opposition - who needs them to be successful.
Still sqatting on the fence, and unable to make an honest move - and prefer to be dishonest even with your own conscience ?
Can you be depended on for your views ?
i do not support the MIW you asshole.. i've never supported them.. i do not support any of the political parties...
my loyalty is only to my country
if you cannot get past the "loyalty for the party" whatever stupid political party it is, you're a liability to the country...
now.. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD YOU MORON!!
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Originally posted by the Bear:
i do not support the MIW you asshole.. i've never supported them.. i do not support any of the political parties...
my loyalty is only to my country
if you cannot get past the "loyalty for the party" whatever stupid political party it is, you're a liability to the country...
now.. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD YOU MORON!!
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Originally posted by the Bear:
i do not support the MIW you asshole.. i've never supported them.. i do not support any of the political parties...
my loyalty is only to my country
if you cannot get past the "loyalty for the party" whatever stupid political party it is, you're a liability to the country...
now.. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD YOU MORON!!
Are you being outspoken with the unusual vigor from a fence squatter ?
Does Singapore or Singaporeans need an ignoramus who is indifferent to the politics in Singapore ?
With your skilled ignorance and indifference to Singapore Politics - can you NOT be more of a liability than anyone else in Singapore ?
For one who claim indifference to the politics in Singapore, you certainly have shown an unusual skill in spreading your ignorance with your controversial views loaded with extra venom for CSJ and the SDP.
Indifference, or sheer hypocrisy ?
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
I think Atobe's loyalty is to anarchy.Anarchy for the ignorant fence squatter and the "swei-siao Hog" should be a blessing.
All they need to do is sit tight, and enjoy the fruits achieved from the efforts and struggles by others that will result in new beginnings and opportunities.
Throughout history, anarchy in its different forms and intensity, has always been followed by decades of peace, progress and development of civilizations.
Surely, a "swei-siao-Hog" should know best that anarchy can produce the mud holes that the hog revell in wallowing, and to procreate in abundance ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Anarchy for the ignorant fence squatter and the "swei-siao Hog" should be a blessing.
All they need to do is sit tight, and enjoy the fruits achieved from the efforts and struggles by others that will result in new beginnings and opportunities.
Throughout history, anarchy in its different forms and intensity, has always been followed by decades of peace, progress and development of civilizations.
Surely, a "swei-siao-Hog" should know best that anarchy can produce the mud holes that the hog revell in wallowing, and to procreate in abundance ?
Bcos that political chimpanzee CSJ, who Atobe is supporting, is incapable of bringing Singapore to any where else, not the least to say through the next decade. Anarchy for any fence squatter is not a blessing but a bane. Anarchy is about lack of social control and dissolution of society.It will never be followed by decades of peace but a struggle to restore human society and creation of a new acceptable constitution.
So now that everyone agrees that the mud-dwelling and noisy oinking Atobe is the only hog in sgforums who is just hoping that Singaporeans are not tempted to slaughter it for food when there is anarchy in Singapore
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Bcos that political chimpanzee CSJ, who Atobe is supporting, is incapable of bringing Singapore to any where else, not the least to say through the next decade. Anarchy for any fence squatter is not a blessing but a bane. Anarchy is about lack of social control and dissolution of society.It will never be followed by decades of peace but a struggle to restore human society and creation of a new acceptable constitution.
So now that everyone agrees that the mud-dwelling and noisy oinking Atobe is the only hog in sgforums who is just hoping that Singaporeans are not tempted to slaughter it for food when there is anarchy in Singapore
Can the ignorance of a "swei-siao-Hog" be more significant ?
What does a Hog know about anarchy when it needs a controlled environment that is a daily cycle of being fed, bred and made dead for the benefit of the homo-sapiens ?
The anarchy that it confront daily is the struggle amongst its own to be the first to reach the trough of puree feed, and then compete for the best muddy spot to wallow.
The chimpanzee has at least the agility and the intelligence not to be like the contented captive hog that live a "swei-siao" life to be fed, bred and made dead.
Can the "swei-siao-hog" have any wisdom in its opinion about a chimpanzee, whose intelligence have been able to match the homo-sapiens ?
Can a contented "swei-siao-hog" destined to a life as a captive understand what a chimpanzee's life that is beyond the horizon of the highest wall of a pig's pen ?
Sad, you are alone and misguided in very bad company.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Can the ignorance of a "swei-siao-Hog" be more significant ?
What does a Hog know about anarchy when it needs a controlled environment that is a daily cycle of being fed, bred and made dead for the benefit of the homo-sapiens ?
The anarchy that it confront daily is the struggle amongst its own to be the first to reach the trough of puree feed, and then compete for the best muddy spot to wallow.
The chimpanzee has at least the agility and the intelligence not to be like the contented captive hog that live a "swei-siao" life to be fed, bred and made dead.
Can the "swei-siao-hog" have any wisdom in its opinion about a chimpanzee, whose intelligence have been able to match the homo-sapiens ?
Can a contented "swei-siao-hog" destined to a life as a captive understand what a chimpanzee's life that is beyond the horizon of the highest wall of a pig's pen ?
Sad, you are alone and misguided in very bad company.
You don't want to be a hog, then please don't be a Singaporean. You can only insult people while doing nothing for the good of Singaporeans.The real truth is that people who don't support the gorillas in white may also not support the chimpanzee who is clowning around. Actually to say the truth, CSJ is just as ballless as the gorillas in white in taking bitter pills for the good of the nation.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
You don't want to be a hog, then please don't be a Singaporean. You can only insult people while doing nothing for the good of Singaporeans.The real truth is that people who don't support the gorillas in white may also not support the chimpanzee who is clowning around. Actually to say the truth, CSJ is just as ballless as the gorillas in white in taking bitter pills for the good of the nation.
Are you suggesting Singaporeans are "hogs" ?Even if some are hogs, not all are like your unique ability to be a "swei-siao-hog" not knowing how to change course despite knowing the obvious fate that awaits.
Have you decide to join the Bear in being a fence squatter ?
At least the Bear knows how to keep its balance from its training in its circus repertoire to entertain walking on tight ropes.
Can a hog perform better than the Bear without adding to its "swei-siao" disabilities ?
For one who has no tooth to even chew on the truth, it is pure "swei-siao" for you to say that CSJ has no balls - when he has shown more certainty for what he stands for as seen in the sacrifices he has made.
Can you compare yourself to your wishy-washy flip-flop in your simple opinion about him being a chimpanzee one moment, and as the gorillas in white the next ?
You bring true colors to the Hokkien meaning of "swei-siao" and worst as a hog.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Are you suggesting Singaporeans are "hogs" ?Even if some are hogs, not all are like your unique ability to be a "swei-siao-hog" not knowing how to change course despite knowing the obvious fate that awaits.
Have you decide to join the Bear in being a fence squatter ?
At least the Bear knows how to keep its balance from its training in its circus repertoire to entertain walking on tight ropes.
Can a hog perform better than the Bear without adding to its "swei-siao" disabilities ?
For one who has no tooth to even chew on the truth, it is pure "swei-siao" for you to say that CSJ has no balls - when he has shown more certainty for what he stands for as seen in the sacrifices he has made.
Can you compare yourself to your wishy-washy flip-flop in your simple opinion about him being a chimpanzee one moment, and as the gorillas in white the next ?
You bring true colors to the Hokkien meaning of "swei-siao" and worst as a hog.
As we all said, both the gorillas and chimpanzees cannot be trusted to rule benevolently for all.
How does one know if CSJ got no balls? Simple, he dare not even dare to debate on removing suicide as a crime from Singapore. He hasn't brought up euthanesia as a topic on his party's political agenda. PAP forces all politicians under its flag to toe such lines is ridiculous enough but an alternative party member doesn't want to broach this as a alternative policy is pure cowardly.
Singaporeans want a change in the legal system and no one is even willing to challenge such status quo in a parliementary meeting.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
As we all said, both the gorillas and chimpanzees cannot be trusted to rule benevolently for all.
How does one know if CSJ got no balls? Simple, he dare not even dare to debate on removing suicide as a crime from Singapore. He hasn't brought up euthanesia as a topic on his party's political agenda. PAP forces all politicians under its flag to toe such lines is ridiculous enough but an alternative party member doesn't want to broach this as a alternative policy is pure cowardly.
Singaporeans want a change in the legal system and no one is even willing to challenge such status quo in a parliementary meeting.
In the "Hokkien" dialect, calling you "swei-siao" is most apt.
Firstly, to associate humans as "gorillas and chimpanzees".
Secondly, wishing euthanesia on the elderlies and infirmed.
We can overlooked your attitude as a "Hog" for your inabilities and ignorance with CSJ ongoing battle with the PAP for more attention and direct help to be given to the aged, the infirmed, the destitutes.
Is his call more respectful than your "swei-siao" attitude to seek legalised suicide and euthenasia for those who are your elders and have fought the good fight to make what Singapore is today ?
Are you in such a hurry to get rid of those whom you are afraid will be taking too much from your full plates ?
And you will measure CSJ's "balls and guts" for simply not taking your stand as a social ingrate ?
Singaporeans do want a change in the system, CSJ has led the way by fighting for a level playing field, and by refusing to play by the rules set by LKY and his PAP that can only favor their game plan.
The level playing field can only be achieved when political rights are returned to Singaporeans, as this will reverse the LKY and PAP schemes that disenfranchised the populace for the last 52 years.
Singaporeans will need to be politically awakened and concious of their rights as guaranteed by the Singapore Constitution.
Unfortunately, ingrates and fence squatters such as the "swei-siao-Hog", the resident "Drama Queen" and the "X-rated Marvel" of this Speaker's Corner have all been doing their level best to undermine the efforts and reputation of CSJ and all the other Alternative Parties - when they have no game plans to offer, nor any honesty to express clear opinions that articulate their frustrations with the present system.
Without even putting any effort to understand, let alone to support in spirit, all these political loafers can do is to sabotage and vandalised with all the spiteful energy that can only parallel the efforts of the PAP to suppress CSJ and the SDP.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
In the "Hokkien" dialect, calling you "swei-siao" is most apt.
Firstly, to associate humans as "gorillas and chimpanzees".
Secondly, wishing euthanesia on the elderlies and infirmed.
We can overlooked your attitude as a "Hog" for your inabilities and ignorance with CSJ ongoing battle with the PAP for more attention and direct help to be given to the aged, the infirmed, the destitutes.
Is his call more respectful than your "swei-siao" attitude to seek legalised suicide and euthenasia for those who are your elders and have fought the good fight to make what Singapore is today ?
Are you in such a hurry to get rid of those whom you are afraid will be taking too much from your full plates ?
And you will measure CSJ's "balls and guts" for simply not taking your stand as a social ingrate ?
Singaporeans do want a change in the system, CSJ has led the way by fighting for a level playing field, and by refusing to play by the rules set by LKY and his PAP that can only favor their game plan.
The level playing field can only be achieved when political rights are returned to Singaporeans, as this will reverse the LKY and PAP schemes that disenfranchised the populace for the last 52 years.
Singaporeans will need to be politically awakened and concious of their rights as guaranteed by the Singapore Constitution.
Unfortunately, ingrates and fence squatters such as the "swei-siao-Hog", the resident "Drama Queen" and the "X-rated Marvel" of this Speaker's Corner have all been doing their level best to undermine the efforts and reputation of CSJ and all the other Alternative Parties - when they have no game plans to offer, nor any honesty to express clear opinions that articulate their frustrations with the present system.
Without even putting any effort to understand, let alone to support in spirit, all these political loafers can do is to sabotage and vandalised with all the spiteful energy that can only parallel the efforts of the PAP to suppress CSJ and the SDP.
Keep calling peoples funny name hor? no good. You are a reputated opposition Uncle, but behaved so childish, haiz!What playing field are you talking about, what level is CSJ, he dun even fit to be in the top league to play on the same field, he is just those 3rd Division player trying to impress himself as 1st Division best players, but he cannot find a way to break thru, because the 1st division players are so good that he cannot find any loopholes to break thru and ended himself being sent off for his mafiaso action in the public. We dun want bull headed opposition leaders, we want cool and steady leaders who dun call people funny names and who think and care for the future of Singapore peoples.
U know why SDP and CSJ cannot get a strong hold in singapore politics, because Singapore PAP is so good that they simply cannot match them. If SDP and CSJ is in Sri lanka or zimbalwe or even Indonesia,..maybe they can get some seat or even be the ruling party, but not in Singapore ya.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Keep calling peoples funny name hor? no good. You are a reputated opposition Uncle, but behaved so childish, haiz!The name reflect quite accurately to the real personality and the character behind the moniker - when one study the contents of the thinking that has been printed in this Speaker's Corner.
Are you not admitting your character is similar to a "hum" that splurge uselessly with every burp of ignorance across every thread in total disabandon to sensibility or relevance to the issues ?
What playing field are you talking about, what level is CSJ, he dun even fit to be in the top league to play on the same field, he is just those 3rd Division player trying to impress himself as 1st Division best players, but he cannot find a way to break thru, because the 1st division players are so good that he cannot find any loopholes to break thru and ended himself being sent off for his mafiaso action in the public. We dun want bull headed opposition leaders, we want cool and steady leaders who dun call people funny names and who think and care for the future of Singapore peoples.
This is the kind of willful ignorance that you have displayed, and to think that you dare claim to be a Singaporean ?
How many Divisions do you believe there is in the Politics of Singapore ?
Do you think that there is the big league and little league for politics ?
This is the kind of ignorance that you spread with the intelligence of a "hum" -breathing useless waiting to be returned to the sea without any means of mobility.
Do we need a Taiwanese "hum" to tell Singaporeans who should be our political leaders, and how our politics should be run ?
U know why SDP and CSJ cannot get a strong hold in singapore politics, because Singapore PAP is so good that they simply cannot match them. If SDP and CSJ is in Sri lanka or zimbalwe or even Indonesia,..maybe they can get some seat or even be the ruling party, but not in Singapore ya.
The reason for SDP and CSJ being in their position is that LKY is terrified that when an SDP and a CSJ - or any other Opposition - should takeover the Government, there will be 52 years of skeleton that will be discovered in all the cabinets.
The reason for SDP and CSJ continuing to be where they are is due to ignorant Taiwanese "hum" who pretend to be Singaporean continueing the PAP propaganda as if it is the general Bible Truth.
Should we immunise a "hum" with the real Singapore Political History ?
Obviously, you have not been accepted as a Citizen, as you have not been through any immersion course for new immigrants.
Your confirmed display of intelligence that is equal to that of a Taiwanese "hum" can be clearly seen in your abilities to measure yourself downwards, in your skills at the comparing everyone with the worst societies in the world.
Can we not believe that your ability as a Taiwanese "hum" is no better than that of the worst countries that you can think for yourself to be measure with ?
Should we wonder why Taiwan will be so willing to let you migrate to Singapore ?
Before you and the PAP existed in Singapore, there were people who were hungry, now everyone is fed up.
As an outsider, what do you think of the human race ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
The name reflect quite accurately to the real personality and the character behind the moniker - when one study the contents of the thinking that has been printed in this Speaker's Corner.
Are you not admitting your character is similar to a "hum" that splurge uselessly with every burp of ignorance across every thread in total disabandon to sensibility or relevance to the issues ?
This is the kind of willful ignorance that you have displayed, and to think that you dare claim to be a Singaporean ?
How many Divisions do you believe there is in the Politics of Singapore ?
Do you think that there is the big league and little league for politics ?
This is the kind of ignorance that you spread with the intelligence of a "hum" -breathing useless waiting to be returned to the sea without any means of mobility.
Do we need a Taiwanese "hum" to tell Singaporeans who should be our political leaders, and how our politics should be run ?
The reason for SDP and CSJ being in their position is that LKY is terrified that when an SDP and a CSJ - or any other Opposition - should takeover the Government, there will be 52 years of skeleton that will be discovered in all the cabinets.
The reason for SDP and CSJ continuing to be where they are is due to ignorant Taiwanese "hum" who pretend to be Singaporean continueing the PAP propaganda as if it is the general Bible Truth.
Should we immunise a "hum" with the real Singapore Political History ?
Obviously, you have not been accepted as a Citizen, as you have not been through any immersion course for new immigrants.
Your confirmed display of intelligence that is equal to that of a Taiwanese "hum" can be clearly seen in your abilities to measure yourself downwards, in your skills at the comparing everyone with the worst societies in the world.
Can we not believe that your ability as a Taiwanese "hum" is no better than that of the worst countries that you can think for yourself to be measure with ?
Should we wonder why Taiwan will be so willing to let you migrate to Singapore ?
Before you and the PAP existed in Singapore, there were people who were hungry, now everyone is fed up.
As an outsider, what do you think of the human race ?
Again belittling others to push your anarchist outlaw agenda with lies and half truths, along with twisting words?
Who is the 'fed up' as you are attempting to twist and imply?
The 34% or so who voted against the ruling party in the last elections? So the 66% who voted for peace and continuity must be made to pay for the dissatisfaction of these minority?
You and your oullaw beloved leader want Singapore to be like Burma, ruled by the minority illegal Junta and his minions in a totalitarian state, this time with you and your kind in seats of totalitarian power, just as you are already displaying totalitarian behaviour here?
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
Again belittling others to push your anarchist outlaw agenda with lies and half truths, along with twisting words?
Atobe is pushing for anarchy in Singapore?
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Atobe is pushing for anarchy in Singapore?
Asj her yourself if you dont read her posts or figure it out yourself, although i am sure you will never get a straight reply. She had been taught well to twist and turn, manipulate semantics, by her beloved outlaw leader. -
Oppositions fighting...hahaha//OMG! wonder what will happen if they become the ruling party, parliament will be turn into a boxing ring...Muay thai...boxing anyone. Harttttrr!
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
Again belittling others to push your anarchist outlaw agenda with lies and half truths, along with twisting words?
Who is the 'fed up' as you are attempting to twist and imply?
The 34% or so who voted against the ruling party in the last elections? So the 66% who voted for peace and continuity must be made to pay for the dissatisfaction of these minority?
You and your oullaw beloved leader want Singapore to be like Burma, ruled by the minority illegal Junta and his minions in a totalitarian state, this time with you and your kind in seats of totalitarian power, just as you are already displaying totalitarian behaviour here?
Can anyone beat the X-rated mind in producing lies and half-truths plagiarized from the true Outlaws holding the guns ?
What 66 per cent are you claiming - when half of the Singapore Electorate did not get to vote by the cunning design of a bloated constituency and sly changes made to the legislation to block any success by any other political parties except the PAP ?
Your myopic vision has stunted your brain, which explains for your frequent vision in a wall of text that you cannot discern simple English not arithmetic clearly printed.
We should commend the creativity of an infertile X-rated mind to always compare ourselves downwards with the worst countries in our neighborhood.
Have you no other originality except to plagiarized the PAP bogey-man stories of anarchy and destruction of states like Myanmar ?
Even if you take the negative view of Myanmar's anarchy - have you forgotten to add that the anarchy was caused by the ruthless acts of violence by the Military Junta to preserve their illegal hold on power ?
Obviously, it was inconvenient for the infertile X-rate mind of a kid attempting to wear an adult's shoe.
Were you born a few months before the entire cycle was complete ?
Are you certain of where you are heading when you are in such a hurry ?
Originally posted by xtreyier:
Asj her yourself if you dont read her posts or figure it out yourself, although i am sure you will never get a straight reply. She had been taught well to twist and turn, manipulate semantics, by her beloved outlaw leader.The impotence of an X-rated mind will have to mix up the gender in his desparation to seek female company.
Those who are in the know has identified her as "longchinjohn" a failed male blogger who has been rejected in quite a few threads.
Here we have a X-rated pervert all mixxed up with your own needs and confused with who you are really dealing with.
Are you certain that your parents were given the right kid at the nursery ?