Sir, would you send in the army
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Originally posted by automator:
What do you think will happen if LKY dies before the next election?
Holidays.
Don't know how many days for his mourning (celebration for his enemies).
One day for election which will most likely be a weekend.
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
like i said in my thread..its an extract..and i had based on that..just because its an extract doesnt mean such words never came out from their mouths ya??the whole point is..from the extract..it is the words of an unwise and selfish leader.
the next election,govt,sun rise are all opportunity cost questions.the point is, he was hoping for a lousier opposition, block their finances so they will fail..and pick up the pieces and re emerge as heros.letting the whole world know that sg cannot do without pap or more importantly him.
and no i did not misrep him..i do not rep him in the 1st place..its the first conclusion i get from the papers..
I said you should comprehend what was being said.
You first conclusion is wrong.
If you have read again you will understand better.
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"..just because its an extract doesnt mean such words never came out from their mouths ya??"
Wah lau eh! Its this kind of mentality that cause most of the trouble in the world.
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Originally posted by hotgunner:
What of postmodernism if this is all mankind is able to achieve. How much of nature actually play a part in society and what of social consciousness. Are you a believer in social darwinism, just like all those 19th century philosophers?
"Postmodernism" - has the Third World mentality of a PAP Government brought Singapore to a stage of human development to move us to the next level ?
"Nature playing a part in society" - are we going back to the nature and nurture business ?
Can "Social conciousness" exist for Singaporeans when the PAP Government prefer to "fill the stomachs and dull the minds" ?
Social conciousness will demand that the citizens are awake and know their social responsibilities towards the community, and in turn a group of like minded individuals will strive to protect their common interests within their community.
Sadly, after 44 years of nation building, the PAP is afraid of a nation that is united in their political awakening, and have done their level best to depoliticise the citizens, even as they politicised the various entire government structure which they then will monopolise with such ease.
LKY has refused to allow the Citizens to participate in the national debate, and will prefer to have the citizens to participate at the level of Town Councils - holding mini-referendums to decide on their neighborhood upgradings, and decide on who the Town Mayors for their constituencies should be.
And how can you use a child as an example when it has limited consciousness. What of the boy who makes 100 footballs and decides to share with others for football games when he realises it serves no purpose hoarding them all.
Was it about the child only, or was it about the Parents giving extra attention to a weakest child amongst all the children in the Family, and which result in an unequal attention given - when the Parents are only attempting to level the playing field to create equality for all the children over the longer term ?
And yes, I stand by what i say. There will be no justice and equality without addressing issues of class. With the right tools, yes, it is possible to create not a classless society but a dictatorship of the working class based on direct democracy. We should all strive for this. As it is politically sensitive its better for me to avoid any lengthy discussion. If you base your politics on justice and equality, the social forces of class will surely come back and haunt you.
Is it not a chicken and egg situation - as to which comes first ?
If the first step is not taken, you can sit in the present status quo into the infinite future and nothing will happen. The first step, is attitude.
Free market has failed the majority of the world's population because of its own contradictions. While i admire your views, there is no way your politics can change anything, not ever, especially in a small nation state like Singapore which is so ever dependent on the changing political situations around the world.
As much as the Free Market is imperfect, can there be any other better forms that can beat total monopoly ?
It is a matter of opinion as to whether my politics can change anything, but given the status quo in which our minds are resigned to the present, obviously nothing can change as there is no impetus for change to happen.
It is surprising that LKY should lament about Singaporeans no longer having the energy to venture, to be enterprising, to seek challenges - considering these attitudes are the results of his own actions over 52 years in power.
Have you not noitced that even as Singapore maybe small and dependent on the changing political situations around the world, it has become more vulnerable due to the inherent weaknesses which were identifed in the reports prepared by two Economic Recovery Committees in 1987 and 1997 ?
Even as Singapore is dependent on the World, this PAP Govenment has selectively responded to the changes in the political situations around the world. It has largely ignored calls even from the strongest allies - to soften its stance towards the ways that it deals with politicians from the Alternative Political Parties.
That said, do you seriously believe that Singapore is totally dependent on the World at large ?
LKY is smarter because he knows what cards are on the table, and what he has in his sleeve. He raises the stakes to scare the weaker hearts into action so as to herd the weaker ones to move in his preferred directions. (see the glossary of his famous speeches posted earlier in this thread).
Each time when you hear a bogeyman story told by him, you should double your efforts to research on the real events that transpired, then form your own conclusions, instead of believing a rehash according to his preferred interpretations
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"Postmodernism" - has the Third World mentality of a PAP Government brought Singapore to a stage of human development to move us to the next level?
Do you not forget our survival is based on our compliance with bigger nations? We are dependent on the international community. But that does not mean our politics shouldn't develop, still it is in the interests of the major economic players for PAP to stay in power.
"Nature playing a part in society" - are we going back to the nature and nurture business?
Nature and nurture business in what sense?
Can "Social conciousness" exist for Singaporeans when the PAP Government prefer to "fill the stomachs and dull the minds"?
Social conciousness will demand that the citizens are awake and know their social responsibilities towards the community, and in turn a group of like minded individuals will strive to protect their common interests within their community.
That is correct, but does any opposition party take upon this task, or are they afraid to since it is not in their class interest?Sadly, after 44 years of nation building, the PAP is afraid of a nation that is united in their political awakening, and have done their level best to depoliticise the citizens, even as they politicised the various entire government structure which they then will monopolise with such ease.
It is a worldwide phenomenon, not only exclusive to Singapore and the PAP. Most recent elections around the world have seen a dramatic decline in the number of electorates taking part on election day. So why are people refusing to vote? They are downhearted and don't believe real change can come into existence as long as the major parties continue to represent big businesses and not the ordinary people. Just look at Obama and his popularity, probably one of the fastest drop in approval ratings any US president has ever seen. Go deeper into politics and one realises it's the same with almost every country, very much monopolised.
Was it about the child only, or was it about the Parents giving extra attention to a weakest child amongst all the children in the Family, and which result in an unequal attention given - when the Parents are only attempting to level the playing field to create equality for all the children over the longer term ?
Is that your idea of governance and equality? Is it not for the parent to nurture every child to the best of their ability. After which are you saying the smartest kid should get all the riches in the world and the least able one miserable scraps because the current socal-economic system dictates that? How miserable when social life becomes a competition! Shouldn't the economic system evolve to meet the needs of everyone and not profits for the tiny few elites? When these kids grow up, with varying abilites, aren't they still dependent on one another? Again, I emphasize needs. What's the point of having 10 cars when i only drive one. Governments should also provide free education and healthcare as a right for all.
Is it not a chicken and egg situation - as to which comes first?
If the first step is not taken, you can sit in the present status quo into the infinite future and nothing will happen. The first step, is attitude.
No doubt something has to happen, but that is where the politics of the opposition come in. I want to change, yes, but why should I vote for any opposition party if it does not represent my class interest. I do not have to repeat myself, same strategy with different tactics changes nothing. This is where I must warn the electorate, if you want change make sure your interest is represented. Do not blindly vote, not for the PAP nor for the opposition if your interest aren't taken care of! If no alternative exist, think very carefully before voting. It take some guts for the construction of new opposition parties that addresses not only the class issue but foreign policy as well. Only then might the ordinary citizens in Singapore experience genuine change.
As much as the Free Market is imperfect, can there be any other better forms that can beat total monopoly?
Did I not say it takes a concerted international effort? That is why a huge undertaking (many international parties are at it) is required to bring down capitalism and rebuild another economy based on social principles.To meet the needs of the people not profits for the tiny few elites. Most people are sick of wage slavery. "I work so hard all my life, constantly exploited by my company and boss, but I still struggle for a decent living." mindset exist in the ordinary and they are not wrong.
It is surprising that LKY should lament about Singaporeans no longer having the energy to venture, to be enterprising, to seek challenges - considering these attitudes are the results of his own actions over 52 years in power.
Have you not noitced that even as Singapore maybe small and dependent on the changing political situations around the world, it has become more vulnerable due to the inherent weaknesses which were identifed in the reports prepared by two Economic Recovery Committees in 1987 and 1997 ?
Has it really become more vulnerable or does the breakdown in world capitalism a bigger contributing factor? Incumbent ruling parties around the world are faced with the same problems.
Even as Singapore is dependent on the World, this PAP Govenment has selectively responded to the changes in the political situations around the world. It has largely ignored calls even from the strongest allies - to soften its stance towards the ways that it deals with politicians from the Alternative Political Parties.
This is where I entirely agree. Oink, oink. LKYist state. However there is more to politics than meets the eye. PAP do have strong alliances with bigger nation states and for their own political interests, will want thisstatus quo to remain.
That said, do you seriously believe that Singapore is totally dependent on the World at large ?
Big yes! What resources do we have on our own? Don't forget our export oriented economy is very dependent on world consumers.
LKY is smarter because he knows what cards are on the table, and what he has in his sleeve. He raises the stakes to scare the weaker hearts into action so as to herd the weaker ones to move in his preferred directions. (see the glossary of his famous speeches posted earlier in this thread).
Each time when you hear a bogeyman story told by him, you should double your efforts to research on the real events that transpired, then form your own conclusions, instead of believing a rehash according to his preferred interpretations
Research and objectivity in politics is very important. Too many people take the mainstream media as unchallenged facts. Forumers interested in politics should not indulge themselves in identity politics; apply scientific analysis to history and human affairs is a fine start to better understand this world. Big brother is watching but don't worry PAP apologists, I have no ulterior motives.
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Originally posted by automator:
What do you think will happen if LKY dies before the next election?
who dun die, put up your hand. We all will die one day, but to die with honor and no grudges is said to go in peace. Dun tell me the day you are going to die and still go on cursing the PAP and Angel, then i believing you will die in agony.Whether LKY die first or you die first, it dun matters, singapore is already well established and Singaporeans understand the fragility of our nation within a racial society and lack of natural resources entity. I can bet you that if LKY die (touch wood) before the election, PAP will get more votes, because people wants to carry on the legend of peace, harmony and properity for our Nation.
As for LKY, he will be well honored both in Singapore and around the world, we will mourn for him, so are others, we should put together and live on within the legend he left behind, we all will be given a day off (yeah!!) to watch his RIP ceremony with all kinds of guards honor. But you, if you die, nothing happen, just burnt and throw.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
who dun die, put up your hand. We all will die one day, but to die with honor and no grudges is said to go in peace. Dun tell me the day you are going to die and still go on cursing the PAP and Angel, then i believing you will die in agony.Whether LKY die first or you die first, it dun matters, singapore is already well established and Singaporeans understand the fragility of our nation within a racial society and lack of natural resources entity. I can bet you that if LKY die (touch wood) before the election, PAP will get more votes, because people wants to carry on the legend of peace, harmony and properity for our Nation.
As for LKY, he will be well honored both in Singapore and around the world, we will mourn for him, so are others, we should put together and live on within the legend he left behind, we all will be given a day off (yeah!!) to watch his RIP ceremony with all kinds of guards honor. But you, if you die, nothing happen, just burnt and throw.
No wonder you are always at odds with the people in Speakers' Corner cause your agenda of bootlicking is not encouraged here.
Get lost and to bootlick at PAP website, the people and PAP there will appreciate you.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
who dun die, put up your hand. We all will die one day, but to die with honor and no grudges is said to go in peace. Dun tell me the day you are going to die and still go on cursing the PAP and Angel, then i believing you will die in agony.Whether LKY die first or you die first, it dun matters, singapore is already well established and Singaporeans understand the fragility of our nation within a racial society and lack of natural resources entity. I can bet you that if LKY die (touch wood) before the election, PAP will get more votes, because people wants to carry on the legend of peace, harmony and properity for our Nation.
As for LKY, he will be well honored both in Singapore and around the world, we will mourn for him, so are others, we should put together and live on within the legend he left behind, we all will be given a day off (yeah!!) to watch his RIP ceremony with all kinds of guards honor. But you, if you die, nothing happen, just burnt and throw.
Unfortunately it will only be you and your whore collegues who will be mourning for him.All of us will die a peaceful death except for a whore like you who will die of AIDS and die a horrible and painful death.
Don't worry. When you are dead, everyone in sgforum will honour your death and celebrate
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Originally posted by automator:
Unfortunately it will only be you and your whore collegues who will be mourning for him.All of us will die a peaceful death except for a whore like you who will die of AIDS and die a horrible and painful death.
Don't worry. When you are dead, everyone in sgforum will honour your death and celebrate
i dun mind to die, but my work in here is not done yet, my God will take me once i accomplish my mission here, afterall, it was him, who send me here to console many to remove their hatre and revengeful thinking so as to remove their suffering on earth. For hell wait no one, but Heaven Can Wait. -
Originally posted by angel7030:
i dun mind to die, but my work in here is not done yet, my God will take me once i accomplish my mission here, afterall, it was him, who send me here to console many to remove their hatre and revengeful thinking so as to remove their suffering on earth. For hell wait no one, but Heaven Can Wait.Your imaginary God send you here to be a whore to pollute the world and you have already done that so its time for you to go and die
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Sending in the army to keep peace or crush dissidents? I have a feeling military coup will hardly happened in this country although the fact that senior military officers earned high salary.
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Originally posted by hotgunner:
Do you not forget our survival is based on our compliance with bigger nations? We are dependent on the international community. But that does not mean our politics shouldn't develop, still it is in the interests of the major economic players for PAP to stay in power.
Do you seriously believe that LKY will base our survival by complying with any bigger nations ?
LKY has shown that even as much as Singapore may depend on the international community, he will not hesistate to put his own political interests before others.
The Major Powers have "accommodated" LKY ways even as much as these goes against the grain of the values professed by the Major Powers - as our immediate neighbors have shown themselves to be less reliable in this strategic area in their overall global political view.
Nature and nurture business in what sense?
You did mention that "nature playing a part in society" ?
My question is are we heading back to the "nature and nurture" business again ?
That is correct, but does any opposition party take upon this task, or are they afraid to since it is not in their class interest?Has the SDP not been taking this task to awaken the conciousness of the largely "kiasi and kiasu" Singaporeans ?
Is the citizens fear due to the "class interests" - or is the fear deliberately created by PAP to divide civil society, and dilute the efforts by focussing their attacks on the more active ones, so as to heighten the price to be paid for social actions ?
It is a worldwide phenomenon, not only exclusive to Singapore and the PAP. Most recent elections around the world have seen a dramatic decline in the number of electorates taking part on election day. So why are people refusing to vote? They are downhearted and don't believe real change can come into existence as long as the major parties continue to represent big businesses and not the ordinary people. Just look at Obama and his popularity, probably one of the fastest drop in approval ratings any US president has ever seen. Go deeper into politics and one realises it's the same with almost every country, very much monopolised.
Do you seriously believe that there is worldwide phenomenon in political apathy ?
You should revisit the recently held ‘2009 Elections in Indonesia where a total of 121,504,481 Indonesians cast their ballot papers’ (*1) and with a ‘Population of 240,271,522 from age 0 to 65 years and over (July 2009 est) (*2) - this will represent a political participation of about 50.57 per cent of the Total Population.
The recently concluded ‘Japanese 2009 Election saw a Total of 70,244,972 voters which represented a 69.28 per cent turnout’ (*4) and from a Total ‘Population of 127,078,679 Japanese – from 0 to 65 years and over (July 2009 est)’ (*4) - this will represent a participation rate of 55.27 per cent of the Total Population.
Comparing the election results of the two larger countries to the results of the 2006 Elections conducted in Singapore - the ‘Total Votes accepted was 1,123,000 out of Total Voting Electorate of 1,222,884 from an electoral roll of 2,147,840 citizens’ (*5) and when compared to the Year 2006 ‘Total Population of 4,401,400 Singaporeans – from 0 to 65 years and over (July 2006 est)’ (*6) - this represent a dismal participation rate of 27.78 per cent of the Total Population.
The lack of political participation in Singapore is by PAP's deliberate design, and not by any wilfull acts of disinterest from Singaporeans.
The drop in Obama's popularity over certain political issues compared to the high percentages during the election is by no means any accurate measure of the citizens' overall attitude towards Obama's job performance.
At the present, it is against the interest of the GOP to help Obama to achieve the must touted Health Care Reforms, and the GOP has sown confusion by creating falsehood and scare mongering in the Health Care debate.
If you work on the basis of polling - it is best that you take heed of some who are more familiar and wiser to this American pass time - "The only poll that matters is the one taken on Election Day".
Is that your idea of governance and equality? Is it not for the parent to nurture every child to the best of their ability. After which are you saying the smartest kid should get all the riches in the world and the least able one miserable scraps because the current socal-economic system dictates that? How miserable when social life becomes a competition! Shouldn't the economic system evolve to meet the needs of everyone and not profits for the tiny few elites? When these kids grow up, with varying abilites, aren't they still dependent on one another? Again, I emphasize needs. What's the point of having 10 cars when i only drive one. Governments should also provide free education and healthcare as a right for all.
A parent can only do so much to level the field within the Family, and help the weakest child to cope with the weaknesses and face the competition that everyone has to face in order to survive.
Is life not competitive even in the social arena ?
Does the current social-economic system dictates that or is that not innate in the competitive evolution that bring out the best in each homo sapien ?
In a Family that is closely knit, should the kids not support one another - is this not obvious in your family ?
Is there any relevance with your analogy of having 10 cars when you drive only one ?
Why have cars at all in the first place when the public transport system is so super efficient ?
Is it not due to the fact that some have too much money and need to satisfy their own personal needs to seek fulfillment more then simple needs of having only one car ?
Are you suggesting the leveling of needs to a common denominator for all homo sapiens and expect everyone to have simple needs only ?
An economic system to meet the needs of everyone and not the profit for a few elites ?
Who decide what or whose needs to be met first ?
No doubt something has to happen, but that is where the politics of the opposition come in. I want to change, yes, but why should I vote for any opposition party if it does not represent my class interest. I do not have to repeat myself, same strategy with different tactics changes nothing. This is where I must warn the electorate, if you want change make sure your interest is represented. Do not blindly vote, not for the PAP nor for the opposition if your interest aren't taken care of! If no alternative exist, think very carefully before voting. It take some guts for the construction of new opposition parties that addresses not only the class issue but foreign policy as well. Only then might the ordinary citizens in Singapore experience genuine change.
If everyone votes only for personal interest and not for the larger interest of the community - are you not sabotaging the overall efforts to change for the better ?
Is your principle not similar to the PAP's way of dividing the group to their selfish individual interests, so as to achieve easy victory ?
The alternative is clear - it is either the existing darkness, or the propective brightness - should we be satisfied with a continuation of heavy dark grey ?
The Class issue is a state of mind that divide peoples according to their interests, their needs, and their goals.
Your stand is merely to propagate the status quo irregardless of the future - it is fortunate that Nelson Mandela did not have you in South Africa under the same circumstances - as your required "Class issues" remains even when Apartheid has been overthrown for more then ten years.
Are the South Africans better today or under the discriminatory conditions fo Apartheid ?
Should they have maintained their status quo then and not overthrow the Whites and their Apartheid politics, and wait till Nelson Mandela and his ANC find a acceptable solution to your "Class issues" ?
Did I not say it takes a concerted international effort? That is why a huge undertaking (many international parties are at it) is required to bring down capitalism and rebuild another economy based on social principles.To meet the needs of the people not profits for the tiny few elites. Most people are sick of wage slavery. "I work so hard all my life, constantly exploited by my company and boss, but I still struggle for a decent living." mindset exist in the ordinary and they are not wrong.
Based on your principle that when certain issues are not clearly resolved, one should not take any actions. and if Free Market is imperfect and concertedd international effort must be made - should we not ask ourselves who should take the first step to correct the status quo when the pre-conditions and its outcome is unclear ?
Bring down Capitalism and rebuild another economy based on social principles ?
What do you have in mind ?
The last clearly understood term about "social princpled economy" was also known as Socialism according to Marx principles.
Has it really become more vulnerable or does the breakdown in world capitalism a bigger contributing factor? Incumbent ruling parties around the world are faced with the same problems.
The breakdown in World Capitalism was as much due to the inattentiveness of the various governments lack of supervision to the capitalist system.
This is evident in the hands off approach of the ignorant White House cowboy -George W Bush - to the callous ways he allowed Greenspan to conduct businesses with the Financial Institutions that led to the global financial meltdown.
Is the Capitalist System broken for good and cannot be reinstated ?
With its ability to allow energetic enterprise to thrive it certainly has a lot of mileage left compared to Marx's socialist levelling of the classes.
This is where I entirely agree. Oink, oink. LKYist state. However there is more to politics than meets the eye. PAP do have strong alliances with bigger nation states and for their own political interests, will want thisstatus quo to remain.
It is not uncommon that the soul has been sold to the devil, and a pact made for the interim convenience and purpose.
Big yes! What resources do we have on our own? Don't forget our export oriented economy is very dependent on world consumers.
Is it not the human ingenuity, energy, creative, and resourcefulness that is primary for many countries ?
What is the use of some countries that is endowed with resources but remain in poverty ?
Research and objectivity in politics is very important. Too many people take the mainstream media as unchallenged facts. Forumers interested in politics should not indulge themselves in identity politics; apply scientific analysis to history and human affairs is a fine start to better understand this world. Big brother is watching but don't worry PAP apologists, I have no ulterior motives.
It is not the PAP apologists that we should be worried about - one should be extra sensitive and extra wary towards those who are defeatist with unclear principles, and push their ideas to demoralised the population at large to accept the status quo.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
i dun mind to die, but my work in here is not done yet, my God will take me once i accomplish my mission here, afterall, it was him, who send me here to console many to remove their hatre and revengeful thinking so as to remove their suffering on earth. For hell wait no one, but Heaven Can Wait.
It is doubtful that Heaven will wait for you with your willful attitude in spreading ignorance across every thread.Hell wait for no one, and will grab when Heaven reject you.
There is always a vacancy left for the fallen angel who will deliberately indulge in consistent stupidity.
If you dun mind to die, it will be less painful for everyone if you should hurry to your God - as it is certainly not His mission for you to spread ignorance in this Speaker's Corner, with your persistant petulant display in sheer childish idiocy.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
It is doubtful that Heaven will wait for you with your willful attitude in spreading ignorance across every thread.Hell wait for no one, and will grab when Heaven reject you.
There is always a vacancy left for the fallen angel who will deliberately indulge in consistent stupidity.
If you dun mind to die, it will be less painful for everyone if you should hurry to your God - as it is certainly not His mission for you to spread ignorance in this Speaker's Corner, with your persistant petulant display in sheer childish idiocy.
My dear Uncle,Within every ignorance and wilfulness lies the truth, lay down your sword of hatre and be reborn in the kingdom of enlightenment for whoever rule the land is only on a temporary basis, the kingdom of mankind shalt fall and fall, for afterall, it is just an illusion.
For the sake of peace and people here, do me a flavour, forgo your struggling, politic is never clean, for you are a clean man, too clean to win.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
My dear Uncle,Within every ignorance and wilfulness lies the truth, lay down your sword of hatre and be reborn in the kingdom of enlightenment for whoever rule the land is only on a temporary basis, the kingdom of mankind shalt fall and fall, for afterall, it is just an illusion.
For the sake of peace and people here, do me a flavour, forgo your struggling, politic is never clean, for you are a clean man, too clean to win.
If need "a flavour", go find your man and lick his dysfunction to satisfy your daily horniness, why do you make a daily spectacle struggling with your display of idiocy tht win you additional spite ?
You must be an extreme masochist to enjoy the daily abuse.
Go to your Taiwan, the pigs at the Animal Farm will suit your taste better if you can appreciate the political dirt and enjoy the flavor that it brings.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
If need "a flavour", go find your man and lick his dysfunction to satisfy your daily horniness, why do you make a daily spectacle struggling with your display of idiocy tht win you additional spite ?
You must be an extreme masochist to enjoy the daily abuse.
Go to your Taiwan, the pigs at the Animal Farm will suit your taste better if you can appreciate the political dirt and enjoy the flavor that it brings.
So ungentleman, said me until so dirty, no good. Do you guys alway like to said vulgar stuff when you loose something or get angry?? cool now lah, there is a course at SIM on managing hot and cold manner ya. I learnt alot from it, cool ya.Uncle, u ok or not, Singapore is already an Animal Farm, why need to go back taiwan? you look at PAP glory and oppositions struggle here, dun they resemble Animal Farm??
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I deeply pity everyone who has to call themselves Singaporean or Singapore citizen.
You have an asshole running the country
And a bastardized system in place of the people.
Get out of the country when and if you can! And expose this corrupt regime when you're out.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I deeply pity everyone who has to call themselves Singaporean or Singapore citizen.
You have an asshole running the country
And a bastardized system in place of the people.
Get out of the country when and if you can! And expose this corrupt regime when you're out.
uncle, thanks for your pity, but we got no skill and money to move out of here, it is not easy to migrate as per se, you need money to move out, so, if you really pity us, dun mind sending us some money, my posb acc nos is 145 26543 2, joo chiat branch. We need at least a 100k to move out, and when we are out of here, we will promise you that we will expose the corrupt regime here.Waiting for your transfer.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I deeply pity everyone who has to call themselves Singaporean or Singapore citizen.
You have an asshole running the country
And a bastardized system in place of the people.
Get out of the country when and if you can! And expose this corrupt regime when you're out.
uncle, thanks for your pity, but we got no skill and money to move out of here, it is not easy to migrate as per se, you need money to move out, so, if you really pity us, dun mind sending us some money, my posb acc nos is 145 26543 2, joo chiat branch. We need at least a 100k to move out, and when we are out of here, we will promise you that we will expose the corrupt regime here.Waiting for your transfer.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
uncle, thanks for your pity, but we got no skill and money to move out of here, it is not easy to migrate as per se, you need money to move out, so, if you really pity us, dun mind sending us some money, my posb acc nos is 145 26543 2, joo chiat branch. We need at least a 100k to move out, and when we are out of here, we will promise you that we will expose the corrupt regime here.Waiting for your transfer.
I transfer 10 cents to your account and you strip naked in front of me
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Originally posted by angel7030:
uncle, thanks for your pity, but we got no skill and money to move out of here, it is not easy to migrate as per se, you need money to move out, so, if you really pity us, dun mind sending us some money, my posb acc nos is 145 26543 2, joo chiat branch. We need at least a 100k to move out, and when we are out of here, we will promise you that we will expose the corrupt regime here.Waiting for your transfer.
A will find a way. When you have the opportunity don't be afraid to seize it to be out of the country. Unless you're ready to worship men. If you consider yourself a free man try to get out at the first opportunity.
You see Malysia has been doing great. Hongkong has been doing great, taiwan has been doing great, South Korea has been doing great. But wait they don't have Lee Kuan Yew. And this Lee Kuan Yew continuously reminding his digits that Singapore wouldn't be as it is now if it ahdn't because of him. Take a look at other successful countries...they don't have Lee Kuan Yew. No man is indispensable and when he creates the illusion that he is. he is merely interested in holding on to power. The regime is not interested in its people it's only concerned on maintaining grip to power. Liars, cheaters, murderers, cowards, thugs and bully! -
Originally posted by automator:
I transfer 10 cents to your account and you strip naked in front of me
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Originally posted by angel7030:
hmmm...ask you, nowaday, what can 10 cents can do in singapore?You are only worth 10 cents
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
A will find a way. When you have the opportunity don't be afraid to seize it to be out of the country. Unless you're ready to worship men. If you consider yourself a free man try to get out at the first opportunity.
You see Malysia has been doing great. Hongkong has been doing great, taiwan has been doing great, South Korea has been doing great. But wait they don't have Lee Kuan Yew. And this Lee Kuan Yew continuously reminding his digits that Singapore wouldn't be as it is now if it ahdn't because of him. Take a look at other successful countries...they don't have Lee Kuan Yew. No man is indispensable and when he creates the illusion that he is. he is merely interested in holding on to power. The regime is not interested in its people it's only concerned on maintaining grip to power. Liars, cheaters, murderers, cowards, thugs and bully!
Huh? they are doing great, hello, boss, you got go checkup or not?Malaysia, the truly asia country is alway remain the same, the way they build the road at woodland checkpoints tell me hell lot of inefficiency and corruption they are...even high way traffic police can stop me and ask for money.
Taiwan, my birth place..can take a week before starting to rescue it typhoon hit residents,..really put a shame on my face. Somemore, parliament can fight like gangster one.
HK, omg, so much disparity btw the rich and the large poor, so many old beggar on the street of kowloon plying their trade, acid throwing everywhere, and damn, i witness a sucide on a street the last time i was there, the house is so small that some have to live in cages..omg
And the south korea, a homogenous population, everyday got workers and govt problem, strike, fight, drink, protest, if not for their drama and korean ginseng, they are still not known.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
So ungentleman, said me until so dirty, no good. Do you guys alway like to said vulgar stuff when you loose something or get angry?? cool now lah, there is a course at SIM on managing hot and cold manner ya. I learnt alot from it, cool ya.Uncle, u ok or not, Singapore is already an Animal Farm, why need to go back taiwan? you look at PAP glory and oppositions struggle here, dun they resemble Animal Farm??
Singapore is Animal Farm because of Taiwanese like you coming here and turn this into your usual Taiwanese mess.Pack up your bags and go back to Taiwan - as you have already said and volunteered already.
Do we need an ignorant Taiwanese to tell Singaporeans what to do ?
Ah Bian will give you the flavours that will surely satisfy your horny cravings for ice cream.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Singapore is Animal Farm because of Taiwanese like you coming here and turn this into your usual Taiwanese mess.Pack up your bags and go back to Taiwan - as you have already said and volunteered already.
Do we need an ignorant Taiwanese to tell Singaporeans what to do ?
Ah Bian will give you the flavours that will surely satisfy your horny cravings for ice cream.
But i sweared in court and become a Singapore citizen liao..taiwan PR only..hmmm..i also miss taiwan, got many handsome looking boys there, good foods and best bubble tea. Ok, since Uncle and all keep asking me to go back, this year end i go back and post from there.