SDP establish 14-member CEC to lead party against PAP regime
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Men in white = PAPThey wear white
include underwear ah? -
Originally posted by angel7030:
include underwear ah?
eh, hock chia kia, u wanna know, go strip your fav men in white to know the answer la -
Originally posted by eagle:
STI reach my target liao... More interesting to spend time learning technical indicators than bother about SDP.
Let's see if my expected scenario I told you before will play out :D
Check out this:
u better dun be too optimistic about it, wait till the end of the year or after the end of the year season greeting period before you make your move,...the economy did pick up because of the winter fall and christmas + new year season. Industries are getting orders and churning the products and everything seem to be moving. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
eh, hock chia kia, u wanna know, go strip your fav men in white to know the answer lame angel lah, not uncle ah chia ok.
White = clean hor
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Originally posted by angel7030:
me angel lah, not uncle ah chia ok.
White = clean hor
U hock chiah kia la. U clean, hahahah, gotta be the world's greatest joke! -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
U hock chiah kia la. U clean, hahahah, gotta be the world's greatest joke!
what is hock chia, u refer to Uncle ah chia ar?? howcome only u laughing..hehhehe -
For more effects, only a ‘Drama Queen’ will be an expert at placing itself between a rock and a hardplace.
Will any normal person with less sadistic and masochistic tendency do the same ?
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
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Originally posted by angel7030:
what is hock chia, u refer to Uncle ah chia ar?? howcome only u laughing..hehhehe
Don't act blur. Don't drag Ah Chia into the discussion. how come u the one who owns brothel?? -
Originally posted by angel7030:
u want a mynmar health care systemu want a cambodian education system
u want a vietnam transport system
u want a poor corrupted govt to support ang mos here
How transparent do you want to be, you have the right not to paid you tax, just move out.
If you want to piss someone off - you should try peeing on a rope, and suck on its wet end.
No one will doubt your inability to compare ourselves with the best of the best, but will surely admire your brilliance in comparing ourselves with the worst.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Whether it is drunk or mischevious, you know best, bet i struck a chord in your SDP.By selling their internal struggle to the public gives them a very bad image, yet to be the ruling party already there is internal struggle for power and fame, what if they are in power? Their focus will be more on power snatching and glory for themselves rather than taking care of citizens. Full of self interest.
Is the SDP offering anything for sale ?Or is the fallen angel so desparate to find something more dramatic that will increase the SDP competency levels to grab power for themselves ?
As much as anyone will try to understand your views, no one can put one's head as high up one's ass as you have been able to.
Should we be surprised at your daily twice-a-day ritualistic display of incontinence in this Speaker's Corner ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Is the SDP offering anything for sale ?Or is the fallen angel so desparate to find something more dramatic that will increase the SDP competency levels to grab power for themselves ?
As much as anyone will try to understand your views, no one can put one's head as high up one's ass as you have been able to.
Should we be surprised at your daily twice-a-day ritualistic display of incontinence in this Speaker's Corner ?
ah-huh...so SDP is not offering people to vote them ya. So be it, we go to the next opposition.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Don't act blur. Don't drag Ah Chia into the discussion. how come u the one who owns brothel??
brothel??, OMG! these are legal pubs, u know what is a pub and what is a brothel or not, my dear aunty. -
Originally posted by angel7030:
brothel??, OMG! these are legal pubs, u know what is a pub and what is a brothel or not, my dear aunty.
longinchjohn the bloody old uncle, don't pretend you are not into it. We all know you. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
longinchjohn the bloody old uncle, don't pretend you are not into it. We all know you.
Omg! not again,..hey, you go ask that noah and i can't remember some of them, they came to my pub. I dunno how many thousand time i hv to tell you. My brother is a young business man now, where gone time to come into such childish forums -
Originally posted by angel7030:
Omg! not again,..hey, you go ask that noah and i can't remember some of them, they came to my pub. I dunno how many thousand time i hv to tell you. My brother is a young business man now, where gone time to come into such childish forums
Don't pretend. Don't drag name into discussion. You say this is childish forum, why u still come here. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Don't pretend. Don't drag name into discussion. You say this is childish forum, why u still come here.
cos me like childish stuff mah...i also like to disturb Uncles, both in forums and real kopi tiam,..ok lah, i go kopi tiam talk with Uncles liao..bye bye lah -
Originally posted by Fugazzi:
i WOULD support any party that
- can lower health costs (n be transparent about it)
- can lower education costs (n be transparent about it)
- can lower transportation costs (n be transparent about it)
- lower GST rate (n be transparent about it)
I stress transparency cos here, sadly its anomaly lar, anachronism lar
Lastly, stop painting bright future, hazy future and cloud issues or form committee after committe - all these is simply wasting taxpayer's money lar!
How do you expect Singapore to do that since it doesn't has natural resources? It relies on its people and their abilities to create a stronger economy to withstand inflation. Thus it is a must for every Singaporean to create their very own niche markets. But to do that, redtape must be minimalized and technology must be allowed to evolved on its own without interference from religions and religious morality. -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
How do you expect Singapore to do that since it doesn't has natural resources? It relies on its people and their abilities to create a stronger economy to withstand inflation. Thus it is a must for every Singaporean to create their very own niche markets. But to do that, redtape must be minimalized and technology must be allowed to evolved on its own without interference from religions and religious morality.
It is good that you have identified that "redtape must be minimalized and technology must be allowed to evolved on its own without interference from religions and religious morality".Unfortunately, that form only part of a larger picture which you did not address and that should have been a continuation from what you had already started.
How did Singapore become the World Second Largest Refinery when there is no crude oil field ?
Can the people's ability to create a stronger economy alone make Singapore withstand inflation ?
How can a stronger economy happen ?
Inflation in Singapore is artificially created, and is manipulated by the Government in its careful act of balancing its revenue and keeping the Cost of Living in check - and in the process to determine - at its own pace - the acceptable Standard of Living for Singaporeans
Do Singaporeans have any influence to the environment cause and effects that affect our economy, the Cost of Living, the Standard of Living or even the inflation levels ?
The Government has at its disposal all the information, statistics, and the manpower to analyse the cause and effects in manipulating the various financial tools or policies that with every single percentage shift up or down - Singaporean lives are affected positively or negatively.
The value of the Singapore Dollar exchange rate with a basket of currencies from the major trading partners is influenced largely by the Government willingness to exercise its muscle at different times to suit their own requirements.
Has anyone kept track of the daily movements of the exchange rate and noticed that the Singapore Dollar always strengthen around the begining of the month, and then allowed to slide for the next 20 odd days ?
The movement of the Singapore Dollar is within a small range but can affect the costs of the products that Singapore trade internally amongst ourselves, and externally with other countries; and which will have effect on the strength of our economy.
As matters stand, the Government is in some kind of urgency to refill its treasury with a slew of increases in fees charged directly and indirectly onto our daily activities.
The government approved increase in charges can be seen across the board that have affected our cost of living - from fuel pump prices to utility charges, from public transport charges to COE prices, from public housing sales prices to URA reserve prices for land parcel sales, from increases in hospital health care charges to fees charged by public education institutions, and while Road Tax and PARF Tax have not been reduced there are more ERP gantries being installed within and around the city.
The foregoing lists are direct government approved increases, while the indirect effects of government policies have also affected Singaporeans in unseen ways.
The withdrawal of property tax rebates has affected the costs of rentals to businesses with expected costs to their customers that produce a snowball effect on the entire delivery chain to the Singapore consumer.
Through its controll of the NTUC by having a PAP Minister without Portfolio acting as the Secretary-General - the Government insist on the implementation of a new term of employment for Singaporeans that result in uncertain future.
The Short Term Employment Contract is a feature for all levels of employment in Singapore - when this was only for the very senior management who are highly paid workers.
Now, even the low paid workers are subject to short term employment contract that do not guarantee any compensation for any sudden termination of contract.
Due to the nature of the new short term contract - any compensation is for a fixed sum based on the most recent length of employment time completed (when previously the total length of time employed in the business was considered).
Can a stronger economy exist under such circumstances ?
In an environment where Singaporeans are not empowered with a political voice to change the present status quo, and when their elected representative to Parliament has no voice - can Singaporeans have any direct influence to determine their own future ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
It is good that you have identified that "redtape must be minimalized and technology must be allowed to evolved on its own without interference from religions and religious morality".Unfortunately, that form only part of a larger picture which you did not address and that should have been a continuation from what you had already started.
How did Singapore become the World Second Largest Refinery when there is no crude oil field ?
Can the people's ability to create a stronger economy alone make Singapore withstand inflation ?
How can a stronger economy happen ?
Inflation in Singapore is artificially created, and is manipulated by the Government in its careful act of balancing its revenue and keeping the Cost of Living in check - and in the process to determine - at its own pace - the acceptable Standard of Living for Singaporeans
Do Singaporeans have any influence to the environment cause and effects that affect our economy, the Cost of Living, the Standard of Living or even the inflation levels ?
The Government has at its disposal all the information, statistics, and the manpower to analyse the cause and effects in manipulating the various financial tools or policies that with every single percentage shift up or down - Singaporean lives are affected positively or negatively.
The value of the Singapore Dollar exchange rate with a basket of currencies from the major trading partners is influenced largely by the Government willingness to exercise its muscle at different times to suit their own requirements.
Has anyone kept track of the daily movements of the exchange rate and noticed that the Singapore Dollar always strengthen around the begining of the month, and then allowed to slide for the next 20 odd days ?
The movement of the Singapore Dollar is within a small range but can affect the costs of the products that Singapore trade internally amongst ourselves, and externally with other countries; and which will have effect on the strength of our economy.
As matters stand, the Government is in some kind of urgency to refill its treasury with a slew of increases in fees charged directly and indirectly onto our daily activities.
The government approved increase in charges can be seen across the board that have affected our cost of living - from fuel pump prices to utility charges, from public transport charges to COE prices, from public housing sales prices to URA reserve prices for land parcel sales, from increases in hospital health care charges to fees charged by public education institutions, and while Road Tax and PARF Tax have not been reduced there are more ERP gantries being installed within and around the city.
The foregoing lists are direct government approved increases, while the indirect effects of government policies have also affected Singaporeans in unseen ways.
The withdrawal of property tax rebates has affected the costs of rentals to businesses with expected costs to their customers that produce a snowball effect on the entire delivery chain to the Singapore consumer.
Through its controll of the NTUC by having a PAP Minister without Portfolio acting as the Secretary-General - the Government insist on the implementation of a new term of employment for Singaporeans that result in uncertain future.
The Short Term Employment Contract is a feature for all levels of employment in Singapore - when this was only for the very senior management who are highly paid workers.
Now, even the low paid workers are subject to short term employment contract that do not guarantee any compensation for any sudden termination of contract.
Due to the nature of the new short term contract - any compensation is for a fixed sum based on the most recent length of employment time completed (when previously the total length of time employed in the business was considered).
Can a stronger economy exist under such circumstances ?
In an environment where Singaporeans are not empowered with a political voice to change the present status quo, and when their elected representative to Parliament has no voice - can Singaporeans have any direct influence to determine their own future ?
Inflation is artificially created...omg!
dun makes me laugh all the way to the bank leh,..OCBC up 10% sell sell sell!!! keppel corp sell sell!!!Do you know where they benchmark the price of goods or not?? Base on per household income of $1800 or per capital of $500 or less, anything below that is consider poor and that need help from WDA, NTUC, and many other social partners.
Please dun use the word manipulate, Govt is mandated by the people of singapore to find the best way for them to enjoy their life here, for the better of tomorrow and betteress of future.
The world is moving up and not down, every country you go, prices are up, but moderately, the govt is in a way helping the poor thru bursaries, ntuc stretch, transport voucher, powersupply discount and education funds to help those who are unable, the main purpose is to help the childrens to hv a good education and healthcare, most of the Singaporeans adults are hopeless, but the govt still try their best to counsel them to get back to work with courses paying $6 per hour for studying and upgrading at learning hub and e2i or SPURs. The govt is try as much help as possible to bring the poor closer to the rich. If you look at other countries poor people, where they get help?? all lying on the railway or streets begging and even commit lots of crime that become a social problem. Our govt make sure that all of use have at least the basic needs, a shelter, water and essential foods. But having spoon feeded most of us for a long time, they feel that we need to be independent inorder to face the new order of the world, therefore govt is now offering course, upgrading skill and jobs opportunities for all at e2i which included the PMET too. Therefore instead of fishing for you, the govt now give you the fishing rod and teach you how to fish. But if you still do not want to fish and learn to fish. There is nothing much the govt can do, afterall, this is democracy.
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The NTUC had come a long way to help replace bangadeshi and indians in food court and HDB cleaners with older Singaporeans, if you see at food court which i dun go often, you see these people, i asked one aunty, she told me last time under their ruthless boss, they work under bangadeshi supervision, imagine, a senior singaporean working reporting to a beggar bangadeshi, there were no leave, medical leaves and all other benefits, when NTUC step in the confront the bosses, bangadeshi was kicked out and rutheess bosses was warned of not aligning their employment policies with the Employment Act. All Cleaners pay was increased and proper training was provided.
Today the NTUC initiated e2i and learning hub and trained ten of thousand singaporeans from security to IR jobs with govt pumping billions of funds to help them get educated and trained.
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What can be seen from all that is written by the fallen angel ?
Like the solid bottles with the alcohol inside displayed at its Bar that look so good when left unopened, the contents evaporate as quickly when the bottles are opened.
Is there any substance despite the effort to write so much ?
Originally posted by angel7030:
Inflation is artificially created...omg! dun makes me laugh all the way to the bank leh,..OCBC up 10% sell sell sell!!! keppel corp sell sell!!!Read the following about " aritificial inflation for the lay-person " - and you may not want to laugh so hard.
Why are you so busy in this Speaker's Corner, when you can make 10% in a single day with the shares today ?
No action, talk only ?
Do you know where they benchmark the price of goods or not?? Base on per household income of $1800 or per capital of $500 or less, anything below that is consider poor and that need help from WDA, NTUC, and many other social partners.
Is the NTUC and WDA helping the poor ?
You must still be dreaming to believe that the PAP will help the poor and destitute in Singapore, when they are too busy preserving their own seats that protects their pockets.
Please dun use the word manipulate, Govt is mandated by the people of singapore to find the best way for them to enjoy their life here, for the better of tomorrow and betteress of future.
Only the fallen angel will understand how to manipulate people.
Does the fallen angel think that the government consist only of angels ?
You must still be in a drunken state of sleepy stupor.
The world is moving up and not down, every country you go, prices are up, but moderately, the govt is in a way helping the poor thru bursaries, ntuc stretch, transport voucher, powersupply discount and education funds to help those who are unable, the main purpose is to help the childrens to hv a good education and healthcare, most of the Singaporeans adults are hopeless, but the govt still try their best to counsel them to get back to work with courses paying $6 per hour for studying and upgrading at learning hub and e2i or SPURs. The govt is try as much help as possible to bring the poor closer to the rich. If you look at other countries poor people, where they get help?? all lying on the railway or streets begging and even commit lots of crime that become a social problem. Our govt make sure that all of use have at least the basic needs, a shelter, water and essential foods. But having spoon feeded most of us for a long time, they feel that we need to be independent inorder to face the new order of the world, therefore govt is now offering course, upgrading skill and jobs opportunities for all at e2i which included the PMET too. Therefore instead of fishing for you, the govt now give you the fishing rod and teach you how to fish. But if you still do not want to fish and learn to fish. There is nothing much the govt can do, afterall, this is democracy.
How many bursaries end up on the lap of a child from a poor family, when the majority of the bursary or scholarship end up helping the child from a rich family ?
You must still be dreaming that the PAP which LKY continue to exist in - will accept your version of what is known as Social Welfare.
There is a difference between day dreaming and dreams from deep slumber, and it looks like there is little difference coming from the brain of a fallen angel that fell hard onto earth from the heights of heaven.
Before you talk so much and so loudly about democracy - you will do some good for yourself and for your readership to fill some substance before the echo from your hollow words become too painful for yourself.
If you are so creative with your imagination, you should have found more use with the rod that the government gave to you, what are you doing in the Bar ?
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Originally posted by angel7030:
The NTUC had come a long way to help replace bangadeshi and indians in food court and HDB cleaners with older Singaporeans, if you see at food court which i dun go often, you see these people, i asked one aunty, she told me last time under their ruthless boss, they work under bangadeshi supervision, imagine, a senior singaporean working reporting to a beggar bangadeshi, there were no leave, medical leaves and all other benefits, when NTUC step in the confront the bosses, bangadeshi was kicked out and rutheess bosses was warned of not aligning their employment policies with the Employment Act. All Cleaners pay was increased and proper training was provided.
Do you not get tired from being an inconsistent mouthpiece of the PAP ?
Is it such a big deal that the NTUC has replaced the the Bangladeshi and Indians in the Food Court and HDB Cleaners with older Singaporeans ?
Why has the NTUC failed in planning the older Singaporeans to have a peaceful period after slogging for the last 40 years and contributed to the Treasury of the NTUC ?
Why has the NTUC spend over $80 Billion to build a new Glass Tower NTUC House with the prestigeous address of 1 Shenton Way - instead of using the $80 Billion to pay for some schemes that protect the Singapore Workers in their Old Age - considering that the amount was largely from members' money used to grow all the other NTUC Businesses that build the Glass Tower ?
Today the NTUC initiated e2i and learning hub and trained ten of thousand singaporeans from security to IR jobs with govt pumping billions of funds to help them get educated and trained.
Who is the fallen angel attempting to con ?
NTUC training "ten of thousand singaporeans" when the IR need no less then these numbers having already recruited most of the workers from those leaving the tertiary and vocational institutes ?
It would have sounded better if you could have been more honest to say that the "govt pumping billions of funds to help" at least one of the IR Project to get financial funding during the current financial crisis.
The money was spent now and will be collected through direct and indirect taxes in the future, with the present principal sums loaned being collected with interests.
Did any Singaporeans benefitted from all these public expenses ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
It is good that you have identified that "redtape must be minimalized and technology must be allowed to evolved on its own without interference from religions and religious morality".Unfortunately, that form only part of a larger picture which you did not address and that should have been a continuation from what you had already started.
How did Singapore become the World Second Largest Refinery when there is no crude oil field ?
Can the people's ability to create a stronger economy alone make Singapore withstand inflation ?
How can a stronger economy happen ?
Inflation in Singapore is artificially created, and is manipulated by the Government in its careful act of balancing its revenue and keeping the Cost of Living in check - and in the process to determine - at its own pace - the acceptable Standard of Living for Singaporeans
Do Singaporeans have any influence to the environment cause and effects that affect our economy, the Cost of Living, the Standard of Living or even the inflation levels ?
The Government has at its disposal all the information, statistics, and the manpower to analyse the cause and effects in manipulating the various financial tools or policies that with every single percentage shift up or down - Singaporean lives are affected positively or negatively.
The value of the Singapore Dollar exchange rate with a basket of currencies from the major trading partners is influenced largely by the Government willingness to exercise its muscle at different times to suit their own requirements.
Has anyone kept track of the daily movements of the exchange rate and noticed that the Singapore Dollar always strengthen around the begining of the month, and then allowed to slide for the next 20 odd days ?
The movement of the Singapore Dollar is within a small range but can affect the costs of the products that Singapore trade internally amongst ourselves, and externally with other countries; and which will have effect on the strength of our economy.
As matters stand, the Government is in some kind of urgency to refill its treasury with a slew of increases in fees charged directly and indirectly onto our daily activities.
The government approved increase in charges can be seen across the board that have affected our cost of living - from fuel pump prices to utility charges, from public transport charges to COE prices, from public housing sales prices to URA reserve prices for land parcel sales, from increases in hospital health care charges to fees charged by public education institutions, and while Road Tax and PARF Tax have not been reduced there are more ERP gantries being installed within and around the city.
The foregoing lists are direct government approved increases, while the indirect effects of government policies have also affected Singaporeans in unseen ways.
The withdrawal of property tax rebates has affected the costs of rentals to businesses with expected costs to their customers that produce a snowball effect on the entire delivery chain to the Singapore consumer.
Through its controll of the NTUC by having a PAP Minister without Portfolio acting as the Secretary-General - the Government insist on the implementation of a new term of employment for Singaporeans that result in uncertain future.
The Short Term Employment Contract is a feature for all levels of employment in Singapore - when this was only for the very senior management who are highly paid workers.
Now, even the low paid workers are subject to short term employment contract that do not guarantee any compensation for any sudden termination of contract.
Due to the nature of the new short term contract - any compensation is for a fixed sum based on the most recent length of employment time completed (when previously the total length of time employed in the business was considered).
Can a stronger economy exist under such circumstances ?
In an environment where Singaporeans are not empowered with a political voice to change the present status quo, and when their elected representative to Parliament has no voice - can Singaporeans have any direct influence to determine their own future ?
Atobe, so far all you have stated is just hot air. Please tell me what kind of natural resources does Singapore has so that it can create its own self sufficient trading system.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Atobe, so far all you have stated is just hot air. Please tell me what kind of natural resources does Singapore has so that it can create its own self sufficient trading system.
natural resources = hot air?
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Originally posted by the Bear:
...posted by Herzog_Zwei: Atobe, so far all you have stated is just hot air. Please tell me what kind of natural resources does Singapore has so that it can create its own self sufficient trading system. natural resources = hot air?
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