Originally posted by angel7030:funny part is that when Singapore remove a foreign talent, Singaporeans fell so much pitiful and sympathise with him, but in the public, they like to condemn FT and support the local.
Well, isn't govt listening to you all and put a local back at the helm of Temasek.
First of all if you cannot establish the different between a experience Profession vs Tom dick harry from PRC than you should not any how apply the word F.T.
I would not put Goodyear to some guy who can't speak english and work in the office on Par.....
so you have to put things into perspective.
Originally posted by Arapahoe:First of all if you cannot establish the different between a experience Profession vs Tom dick harry from PRC than you should not any how apply the word F.T.
I would not put Goodyear to some guy who can't speak english and work in the office on Par.....
so you have to put things into perspective.
well, the word FT is very vague, so what you expect, how do you define FT in singapore? Anyone with a E pass? or anyone who get PR status? a beijing U degree or harvard or Chennai University?? Or you base on paid structure, anything above 5k is a FT??
Goodyear is no different from any tom and dick with an Employment Pass, why? he king ar?
Obviously the fallen angel do not appreciate between 'TALENT' and 'LABOR'.
If all labor is equal amongst individuals, is there a need to have the different work permits for those whose 'skills and knowledge' command higher wages compared to those who can only be fit for less ?
Perhaps in the experience of the fallen angel, whose exposure is with the foreign Bar Girls at her father's Bar and is only familiar with the 'talent' of these under paid Girls, who depend on their 'talents' to earn "extras" from their customers - in her mind, there is no difference between Mr Goodyear at TH, and Miss Goodtime at her Bar.
In her mind, there is little difference between a $10.50 Kleenex Toilet Roll and a $3.50 Blossom Toilet Roll (both in a 10 roll packing) - afterall in her desperation with her daily incontinence during her waking hours, a roll is a roll that will settle her problems.
Originally posted by Atobe:
Obviously the fallen angel do not appreciate between 'TALENT' and 'LABOR'.
If all labor is equal amongst individuals, is there a need to have the different work permits for those whose 'skills and knowledge' command higher wages compared to those who can only be fit for less ?
Perhaps in the experience of the fallen angel, whose exposure is with the foreign Bar Girls at her father's Bar and is only familiar with the 'talent' of these under paid Girls, who depend on their 'talents' to earn "extras" from their customers - in her mind, there is no difference between Mr Goodyear at TH, and Miss Goodtime at her Bar.
In her mind, there is little difference between a $10.50 Kleenex Toilet Roll and a $3.50 Blossom Toilet Roll (both in a 10 roll packing) - afterall in her desperation with her daily incontinence during her waking hours, a roll is a roll that will settle her problems.
i am not saying that the division of labour is equal, it cannot be, but what define a FT in singapore? that is what i asked, an engineers, a scientist, a financial specialist, a CEO with no education, etc etc..
Originally posted by angel7030:i am not saying that the division of labour is equal, it cannot be, but what define a FT in singapore? that is what i asked, an engineers, a scientist, a financial specialist, a CEO with no education, etc etc..
"If you are not saying that division of labor is equal, and it cannot be" - have you understood what "TALENT" is, and how they separate individuals to take up the different tasks determined by the different level of skill needed ?
Being in the business of managing a Bar, surely you are involved in the application of Work Permit for your "foreign female talents" ?
Or are they working without work permits ?
Surely, you will be the first one to know better than anyone in this Speaker's Corner - about the conditions that the Labor Department will issue Work Permit - and the difference in Work Permits issued for the girls in your trade, compared to that of domestic help, and that given to a Bangladesh worker for the menial labor required for construction and shipyard activities, or that given to the Super Tertiary Educated needed by the Bio-Science Industry or the Banking-Financial Sector ?
Can the uneducated CEO get a workpermit ?
Yes, if a Company - such as NTUC Comfort, or General Electric or SHELL - is prepared to sponsor such a person, or if none is available - the person will have to invest at least $250,000 to be able to get a permit to reside here.
Originally posted by angel7030:
well, the word FT is very vague, so what you expect, how do you define FT in singapore? Anyone with a E pass? or anyone who get PR status? a beijing U degree or harvard or Chennai University?? Or you base on paid structure, anything above 5k is a FT??
Goodyear is no different from any tom and dick with an Employment Pass, why? he king ar?
The word "FT" was originally coined by Government to justify bringing in certain trade of individual to head Singapore State owned financial enterprised. So as it filiter downward some headhunter agency decided to apply it to Ah Kow and Ah Tom......
So if you think Goodyear is another Tom.....perharps you should ask if Ho Chang could rise up to the occasion......?
Chief Executive Officer and Executive Director, Chairman of the Office of Chief Executive for BHP Billiton, the world’s largest diversified resources company with operations in 25 countries and a market value of approximately US$125 billion. He joined the group as Chief Financial Officer in 1999. He was appointed Chief Development Officer in July 2001 and joined the boards of BHP Billiton Limited and BHP Billiton Plc in November 2001. He was named Chief Executive Officer in January 2003. He is a former President of Goodyear Capital Corporation and former Executive Vice President and CFO of Freeport-McMoRan Inc, and has extensive financial, corporate restructuring and merger and acquisition experience. He holds a Bachelor of Science (Geology & Geophysics) from Yale University, Connecticut and an MBA from The Wharton School of Finance, University of Pennsylvania. He has lived in the United States, Australia and the United Kingdom. He is a Member of the International Council on Mining and Metals and the National Petroleum Council. He is married with two children.
Originally posted by Arapahoe:The word "FT" was originally coined by Government to justify bringing in certain trade of individual to head Singapore State owned financial enterprised. So as it filiter downward some headhunter agency decided to apply it to Ah Kow and Ah Tom......
So if you think Goodyear is another Tom.....perharps you should ask if Ho Chang could rise up to the occasion......?Chief Executive Officer and Executive Director, Chairman of the Office of Chief Executive for BHP Billiton, the world’s largest diversified resources company with operations in 25 countries and a market value of approximately US$125 billion. He joined the group as Chief Financial Officer in 1999. He was appointed Chief Development Officer in July 2001 and joined the boards of BHP Billiton Limited and BHP Billiton Plc in November 2001. He was named Chief Executive Officer in January 2003. He is a former President of Goodyear Capital Corporation and former Executive Vice President and CFO of Freeport-McMoRan Inc, and has extensive financial, corporate restructuring and merger and acquisition experience. He holds a Bachelor of Science (Geology & Geophysics) from Yale University, Connecticut and an MBA from The Wharton School of Finance, University of Pennsylvania. He has lived in the United States, Australia and the United Kingdom. He is a Member of the International Council on Mining and Metals and the National Petroleum Council. He is married with two children.
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For all the self-proclaimed elitist talents that the PAP and LKY claim to have in their fold, none of the Singapore Ministers can hold a candle to Goodyear.
Not even the brother of LHL, and least of all The Jinx.
Originally posted by Atobe:
For all the self-proclaimed elitist talents that the PAP and LKY claim to have in their fold, none of the Singapore Ministers can hold a candle to Goodyear.
Not even the brother of LHL, and least of all The Jinx.
if Talent can be hold onto than perharps it is not Real Talent......
The biggerest mistake from Pap is the presumtion that once you acquired the "X" you can managed and control.....There is no such thing as to have it all and Eat it all.