Originally posted by Chew Bakar:Yalor your Aunty very can, ang moh oso not fight.
In fact, to tell the true, Aunty got for a long holiday only, now she is back.
Originally posted by angel7030:
In fact, to tell the true, Aunty got for a long holiday only, now she is back.
You go jalan with her har?
Originally posted by Chew Bakar:You go jalan with her har?
no lah, while she is on holiday, the PM LHL called me for a date, actually LHL dun like her to be in Singapore.
Temasek says portfolio falls by a fifth in yr to March
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSSIN47470020090729
Ho Ching speaks , hahahah! she spoke on resignation of goodyear :
"I just want to reaffirm that the decision was both mutual and amicable. We continue to hold Chip in very high regard for his professionalism and his integrity. So all those little funny rumours you hear of his management style and all that, you can disregard."
--- extract from CNA
hahahha. Sure or not - are the people talking about goodyear or temasick's management style. Any twist of words or not??
She and leechgime must be fuming mad about the words from the public.
yeah she is a joker.....infact Temasek is begining to look like a billion dollar joke.
She took off for a few month and now she wants to invit public to invest....now speak about running out of funds.....
I wonder if $10,000 x 4 million = $40 billion.
Each of us could be given 10K outright.
Can we trust the Jinx running Temasek investments ?
Reuters - Wednesday, July 29
SINGAPORE, July 29 - Singapore state investor Temasek said on Wednesday its portfolio had fallen by S$40 billion as of end-March 2009 from a year ago.
"In our Temasek Review last year, we reported an annual value-at-risk of almost S$40 billion last March. This meant a 16 percent probability for our portfolio value to drop more than S$40 billion by March this year. Indeed, it has turned out to be so, and more," CEO Ho Ching said in a speech.
Temasek had S$185 billion in assets as of end-March 2008, which fell to S$127 billion as of November 2008. Ho did not give the exact portfolio level.
This was the first public comment by Ho, also the wife of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, after Temasek said last week that Charles "Chip" Goodyear will not become CEO due to differences over strategy.[ID:SIN435934]
Ho said Temasek would continue to look at internal and external candidates for her replacement.
(Reporting by Saeed Azhar and Kevin Lim; Editing by Neil Chatterjee)
Originally posted by angel7030:
First of all, open your bloody eyes and read, i did not give any definition, and i am referring to GLC or Govt firm..not all firms!!!
Next!
You're better off "opening" your brain to get a grip of the drivel you're espousing...
To date, there is no wage cut, retrenchment, cost cut and laid off in Temasek HQ, isn't that show that Temasek is doing well??
With reference to the quote above, would it not be equally logical to suggest any company can rightly be regarded as doing well so long as they remain solvent?
Originally posted by Atobe:
Can we trust the Jinx running Temasek investments ?
Temasek says portfolio falls by S$40 bln end-March '09
Reuters - Wednesday, July 29
SINGAPORE, July 29 - Singapore state investor Temasek said on Wednesday its portfolio had fallen by S$40 billion as of end-March 2009 from a year ago.
"In our Temasek Review last year, we reported an annual value-at-risk of almost S$40 billion last March. This meant a 16 percent probability for our portfolio value to drop more than S$40 billion by March this year. Indeed, it has turned out to be so, and more," CEO Ho Ching said in a speech.
Temasek had S$185 billion in assets as of end-March 2008, which fell to S$127 billion as of November 2008. Ho did not give the exact portfolio level.
This was the first public comment by Ho, also the wife of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, after Temasek said last week that Charles "Chip" Goodyear will not become CEO due to differences over strategy.[ID:SIN435934]
Ho said Temasek would continue to look at internal and external candidates for her replacement.
(Reporting by Saeed Azhar and Kevin Lim; Editing by Neil Chatterjee)
I think at this point is the lack of oversight on the leadership decision and accountabilities are probably alarming. We have a run off organization who is self protecting itself from its own public and its does not bare the consequences of loss from the decision made.
There is a almost a gambling addiction mentality here........
Originally posted by Atobe:
Can we trust the Jinx running Temasek investments ?
Temasek says portfolio falls by S$40 bln end-March '09
Reuters - Wednesday, July 29
SINGAPORE, July 29 - Singapore state investor Temasek said on Wednesday its portfolio had fallen by S$40 billion as of end-March 2009 from a year ago.
"In our Temasek Review last year, we reported an annual value-at-risk of almost S$40 billion last March. This meant a 16 percent probability for our portfolio value to drop more than S$40 billion by March this year. Indeed, it has turned out to be so, and more," CEO Ho Ching said in a speech.
Temasek had S$185 billion in assets as of end-March 2008, which fell to S$127 billion as of November 2008. Ho did not give the exact portfolio level.
This was the first public comment by Ho, also the wife of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, after Temasek said last week that Charles "Chip" Goodyear will not become CEO due to differences over strategy.[ID:SIN435934]
Ho said Temasek would continue to look at internal and external candidates for her replacement.
(Reporting by Saeed Azhar and Kevin Lim; Editing by Neil Chatterjee)
Incidentally, this state-orchaestrated scam revealed they had lost what was estimated in their original VaR in March, without revealing the full extent (not that it would be remotely believable to begin with) of the excess - beyond the VaR - losses they had incurred.
Interesting brand of risk management there...
SINGAPORE, July 29 - Singapore state investor Temasek said on Wednesday its portfolio had fallen by S$40 billion as of end-March 2009 from a year ago.
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"In our Temasek Review last year, we reported an annual value-at-risk of almost S$40 billion last March. This meant a 16 percent probability for our portfolio value to drop more than S$40 billion by March this year. Indeed, it has turned out to be so, and more," CEO Ho Ching said in a speech.
Temasek had S$185 billion in assets as of end-March 2008, which fell to S$127 billion as of November 2008. Ho did not give the exact portfolio level.
This was the first public comment by Ho, also the wife of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, after Temasek said last week that Charles "Chip" Goodyear will not become CEO due to differences over strategy.
So dun say my aunty is staying for long, as i said earlier she is only here temporary for the sake of temasek. And she is been transparent to tell you about the situation.
Scary.
Originally posted by charlize:Scary.
Scare what, bo ji one...me also not sacre, still shake legs and eat happily...
Originally posted by walesa:
Incidentally, this state-orchaestrated scam revealed they had lost what was estimated in their original VaR in March, without revealing the full extent (not that it would be remotely believable to begin with) of the excess - beyond the VaR - losses they had incurred.
Interesting brand of risk management there...
I wonder what was the CI and time period they used in the computation of this VAR.
As a businessman point of view, getting someone back who has not been doing his/her job well is totally rubbish.
I just cant imagine how much more money do they still want to lose.Pardon me if i offend anyone here, as i do understand investment always come with a risk factor, but considering the money comes from our pocket and now all gone due to poor judgement is totally rubbish.
I also do not want to be involve in the political relationship btw the parties, but i believe all Singaporean deserve an explanation from Temasek Holdings.
Originally posted by charlize:I wonder what was the CI and time period they used in the computation of this VAR.
Originally posted by walesa:
Why u laugh?
Valid question what.
Originally posted by charlize:Why u laugh?
Valid question what.
darn... all laughing, where got worry and problem??
Scary.
Originally posted by charlize:
Is it a 1% chance of getting whacked 40 billion?
5% chance?
10% chance?
In 1 day?
1 month?
1 year?
even if 100 billions is being whack within 1 week, we still celebrate NDP...what can you said, better diam diam
Interesting article from "Yxxxone", posting here cause the topic has been locked.
http://business.smh.com.au/business/lumbered-with-the-bosss-wife-20090729-e1oc.html?page=-1
The Sydney Morning Herald, 30 Jul 2009, Eric Ellis
Lumbered with the boss's wife
SINGAPOREANS aren’t usually given to open criticism of the Lee family that has ruled them for half a century. Rightly or wrongly, some presume that in their tightly controlled island state, walls have ears, and one never knows who is listening.
But this time it’s different. Singaporeans are deeply displeased with their Prime Minister’s wife, Ho Ching. She has run Temasek Holdings, the state-owned fund, since 2002, and has presided over a spectacular series of misjudgments that have lost Singaporeans billions.
There was the murky $3 billion deal she made in Bangkok in 2006, to buy then Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra out of his telco. Ho’s massive plunges into European and American banks ended in tears last year when Temasek lost a third of its $100 billion portfolio. In Australia, Ho lost Temasek’s entire $400 million stake she’d plunged into Eddie Groves’ ABC Learning Centres, among other missteps.
So much for her much-lauded ‘‘Superwoman’’ smarts and vision when the state appointed her, even though her pre-Temasek record at Temasek-owned arms supplier Singapore Technologies was hardly Sorosesque. Today, Singaporeans are sick of Ho and have been for some time. They want her out of Temasek, lest she create any more financial havoc for them.
Except she’s not going. In a February ‘‘transition’’ — not a sacking, as Temasek spun furiously — Ho was supposed to hand over Temasek to Chip Goodyear, the 51-year-old American (and North Melbourne supporter) who pointed BHP-Billiton at China for four years and made billions.
The big idea was that Goodyear would fix the mess Ho made in banking and tilt Singapore into the booming China and India growth stories, which meant placing Temasek at the middle of big regional resources plays. But that, too, has ended in tears, when Temasek last week cited ‘‘strategic differences,’’ announcing it was "mutually agreed" Goodyear would not become CEO.
It seems clear that after five months hanging around the Temasek office, Goodyear has been paid millions for his life-long silence.
But only a few days earlier, Goodyear was doing the rounds of Temasek satellites mapping out his vision. One CEO I spoke to expressed shock, saying he had been on the ‘‘same page’’ as Goodyear and was looking forward to working with him. The implication was clear: Goodyear was a genuine businessperson whereas Ho was not.
That was mid-July. A week later, Chip was chopped. Temasek’s board met the weekend before last, then announced Goodyear was gone. So what happened?
The Government-controlled Straits Times said Goodyear’s proposals to shake up Temasek were viewed as "too risky" by the board. Too risky? Ho’s bad bets in banks lost Temasek around $30 billion. What could be riskier than that?
More likely is the take doing the rounds of Singapore’s banking and business communities. Local insiders, under few illusions that little happens at Temasek without Government say-so, say the Government has been spooked by the arrest in China of Rio-Tinto executive Stern Hu.
Temasek hired Goodyear because they wanted him to do for it what he had done at BHP, expertly play China, which is far more politically important for an Asian nation such as tiny Chinese-dominated Singapore than it is for a global mining giant. But after the Chinese Government arrested Hu and sent a message it was taking back control of its resources management, it wouldn’t do now, they say, for a foreigner who knows so much about Chinese resources to front mostly Singapore Inc’s ambitions in China.
The handling of Goodyear has deeply embarrassed Singapore and seems to give lie to the fiction that Temasek operates transparently and separately from Government policy. And knowing how deep runs the anger among its readers that Ho has squandered a big chunk of their nest egg, even the normally lap-dog Straits Times was moved to ask how ‘‘private sector’’ can Temasek really be, commenting: ‘‘Like it or not, Temasek cannot get away from the fact that it is inextricably linked to the Singapore Government’’.
It’s shaken up the arcane world of sovereign wealth funds too, where Temasek liked to portray itself as the model for emerging wealthy states. Delegations from around the world made pilgrimages to Singapore to see how it was done, how their state’s strategic jewels can be packaged and managed into an investment vehicle that maintained the illusion it was somehow separated from the Government. Journalists describing Temasek as "Government-controlled" invited a welter of complaints to their editors from Temasek’s spinners who demanded it be benignly referenced as an "Asian investment company" with no references to the Government whatsoever, and certainly not to describe the family connections of Ho’s. Failure to comply would mean an outlet would be blackballed by Temasek, which in Singapore ultimately suggests a libel suit no media company has ever won there.
East Timor decided the Temasek model wasn’t for them, and chose a Norwegian-inspired transparent route for its now $6 billion petroleum royalties pile. In many respects, it’s actually a model for Temasek. Certainly, the East Timorese fund made more money than Temasek has recently — it invested in boring US treasury bonds while Ho was plunging billions into Merrill Lynch.
Unsurprisingly, Temasek’s model appeals more to the more authoritarian and less democratic of states, such as Kazakhstan which, like Singapore, is run along family lines.
Now Singapore Inc is in a pickle. It said it wants to internationalise Temasek, and appointing the much-respected Goodyear was a huge – and widely welcomed – statement. Now it’s stuck with the bumbling Ho, for at least another year, which simply deepens the market’s conviction that dealing with Temasek is akin to de facto dealing with the Government.
Temasek says it is continuing its international search for a new boss. But after Goodyear’s bad year at Temasek, why would anyone want to go there?
Originally posted by deepak.c:Interesting article from "Yxxxone", posting here cause the topic has been locked.
http://business.smh.com.au/business/lumbered-with-the-bosss-wife-20090729-e1oc.html?page=-1
The Sydney Morning Herald, 30 Jul 2009, Eric Ellis
Lumbered with the boss's wife
SINGAPOREANS aren’t usually given to open criticism of the Lee family that has ruled them for half a century. Rightly or wrongly, some presume that in their tightly controlled island state, walls have ears, and one never knows who is listening.
But this time it’s different. Singaporeans are deeply displeased with their Prime Minister’s wife, Ho Ching. She has run Temasek Holdings, the state-owned fund, since 2002, and has presided over a spectacular series of misjudgments that have lost Singaporeans billions.
There was the murky $3 billion deal she made in Bangkok in 2006, to buy then Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra out of his telco. Ho’s massive plunges into European and American banks ended in tears last year when Temasek lost a third of its $100 billion portfolio. In Australia, Ho lost Temasek’s entire $400 million stake she’d plunged into Eddie Groves’ ABC Learning Centres, among other missteps.
So much for her much-lauded ‘‘Superwoman’’ smarts and vision when the state appointed her, even though her pre-Temasek record at Temasek-owned arms supplier Singapore Technologies was hardly Sorosesque. Today, Singaporeans are sick of Ho and have been for some time. They want her out of Temasek, lest she create any more financial havoc for them.
Except she’s not going. In a February ‘‘transition’’ — not a sacking, as Temasek spun furiously — Ho was supposed to hand over Temasek to Chip Goodyear, the 51-year-old American (and North Melbourne supporter) who pointed BHP-Billiton at China for four years and made billions.
The big idea was that Goodyear would fix the mess Ho made in banking and tilt Singapore into the booming China and India growth stories, which meant placing Temasek at the middle of big regional resources plays. But that, too, has ended in tears, when Temasek last week cited ‘‘strategic differences,’’ announcing it was "mutually agreed" Goodyear would not become CEO.
It seems clear that after five months hanging around the Temasek office, Goodyear has been paid millions for his life-long silence.
But only a few days earlier, Goodyear was doing the rounds of Temasek satellites mapping out his vision. One CEO I spoke to expressed shock, saying he had been on the ‘‘same page’’ as Goodyear and was looking forward to working with him. The implication was clear: Goodyear was a genuine businessperson whereas Ho was not.
That was mid-July. A week later, Chip was chopped. Temasek’s board met the weekend before last, then announced Goodyear was gone. So what happened?
The Government-controlled Straits Times said Goodyear’s proposals to shake up Temasek were viewed as "too risky" by the board. Too risky? Ho’s bad bets in banks lost Temasek around $30 billion. What could be riskier than that?
More likely is the take doing the rounds of Singapore’s banking and business communities. Local insiders, under few illusions that little happens at Temasek without Government say-so, say the Government has been spooked by the arrest in China of Rio-Tinto executive Stern Hu.
Temasek hired Goodyear because they wanted him to do for it what he had done at BHP, expertly play China, which is far more politically important for an Asian nation such as tiny Chinese-dominated Singapore than it is for a global mining giant. But after the Chinese Government arrested Hu and sent a message it was taking back control of its resources management, it wouldn’t do now, they say, for a foreigner who knows so much about Chinese resources to front mostly Singapore Inc’s ambitions in China.
The handling of Goodyear has deeply embarrassed Singapore and seems to give lie to the fiction that Temasek operates transparently and separately from Government policy. And knowing how deep runs the anger among its readers that Ho has squandered a big chunk of their nest egg, even the normally lap-dog Straits Times was moved to ask how ‘‘private sector’’ can Temasek really be, commenting: ‘‘Like it or not, Temasek cannot get away from the fact that it is inextricably linked to the Singapore Government’’.
It’s shaken up the arcane world of sovereign wealth funds too, where Temasek liked to portray itself as the model for emerging wealthy states. Delegations from around the world made pilgrimages to Singapore to see how it was done, how their state’s strategic jewels can be packaged and managed into an investment vehicle that maintained the illusion it was somehow separated from the Government. Journalists describing Temasek as "Government-controlled" invited a welter of complaints to their editors from Temasek’s spinners who demanded it be benignly referenced as an "Asian investment company" with no references to the Government whatsoever, and certainly not to describe the family connections of Ho’s. Failure to comply would mean an outlet would be blackballed by Temasek, which in Singapore ultimately suggests a libel suit no media company has ever won there.
East Timor decided the Temasek model wasn’t for them, and chose a Norwegian-inspired transparent route for its now $6 billion petroleum royalties pile. In many respects, it’s actually a model for Temasek. Certainly, the East Timorese fund made more money than Temasek has recently — it invested in boring US treasury bonds while Ho was plunging billions into Merrill Lynch.
Unsurprisingly, Temasek’s model appeals more to the more authoritarian and less democratic of states, such as Kazakhstan which, like Singapore, is run along family lines.
Now Singapore Inc is in a pickle. It said it wants to internationalise Temasek, and appointing the much-respected Goodyear was a huge – and widely welcomed – statement. Now it’s stuck with the bumbling Ho, for at least another year, which simply deepens the market’s conviction that dealing with Temasek is akin to de facto dealing with the Government.
Temasek says it is continuing its international search for a new boss. But after Goodyear’s bad year at Temasek, why would anyone want to go there?
Thanks, dee, for posting it. Just don't understand why such an interesting article is locked, bad decision by whoever who locked it.