Dunt do it in public place:Law Minister tells gays
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Dunt do it in public place:Law Minister tells gays.
Do's & Don't's of gays in Singapore?
I cant find the following in English medias.
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp090706_001.shtml
valid for 7 days
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(lousy translation ny lion)--”Many parents do not ......... Therefore, we call upon homosexuals should not carry out such acts in public place, so as to make parents uneasy. "
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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/440540/1/.html
This is in consistent with gavaman 's stand.
6 On Mr Shanmugam's concern over the application of section 377, let me assure the Member that AGC has been clear and consistent in its approach when prosecuting offenders under this section. We prosecute persons under section 377 where oral sex is performed with a minor under 16 years of age, or where the act is carried out in public, involved deception, coercion or which amounted to sexual assault. We also prosecute persons who have taken advantage of the mentally deficient, or who abuse their positions of trust, dominance or authority to sexually abuse and exploit those who are in their care. I have gone through the facts of recent cases. The cases prosecuted bear this out. In some of them, multiple factors were present.
7 No man or woman engaging in consensual oral sex in private even though, strictly speaking, coming within the ambit of section 377, has been prosecuted for many years now. This was clarified by my Ministry in an earlier case involving a Police officer and an under-aged girl. In this and the other recent cases that were prosecuted in Court, there were one or more of the aggravating factors that I had mentioned earlier.
8 Section 377 is framed in wide terms. Yet, AGC only prosecutes certain cases. Is this a haphazard approach that is undesirable? Under Article 35(8) of our Constitution, the Attorney-General who is also the Public Prosecutor, is vested with the discretion to institute, conduct or discontinue any proceedings for any offence. The Privy Council held in Teh Cheng Poh vs PP, an appeal from Malaysia, hence of persuasive authority, that there are many factors which a prosecution authority may properly take into account in exercising its discretion whether to charge a person at all. The PP takes into account all the relevant factors of an individual case before taking a decision to charge a person. Basically, our Constitution requires all cases to be given unbiased consideration by the PP, and that the decision made not be dictated by irrelevant considerations. The primary consideration is whether it is in the public interest to prosecute the offender. Even if the victim purportedly gives consent, the public interest in such prosecution is to protect those who are vulnerable - whether from tender age, mental deficiency or arising from a position of trust and dominance. This scope of coverage is borne out by provisions on sexual offences found in the other provisions of the Penal Code, Children and Young Persons Act and the Women's Charter. Hence, the way s 377 has been applied does not breach the rule of law. These considerations are also relevant and taken into account in prosecution of such cases in other jurisdictions (US, UK).
9 Dr Wang, Mr Shanmugam, Mr Chong and Mdm Ho have specifically asked that section 377 be reviewed. Indeed, we are doing just that. We are considering decriminalising consensual oral sex done in private between a male and female above 16 years old. We will study the most appropriate approach to effect changes to this aspect of the law, which will also ensure that non-consensual oral sex remains an offence.Ministry of Home Affairs - Response given by the Senior Minister ...
http://www.mha.gov.sg/news_details.aspx?nid=Nzkw-xDx%2FDmFqAEI%3D
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So long u do it behind closed door,no body will bother u,subject to conditions
listed above.......
2.Sect 377A is a paper tiger,so long u dunt pull its tail.Ok?
3.Get the willing and right person(no minor ,pl).
Get the right place and protection.I dunt think u will get into trouble.
4.why dunt u buy a HDB flat or private property with your partner?This is legal .
PAP knows wat is going on in society.
Eligibility Scheme - Joint Singles Scheme
Joint Singles Scheme
The Joint Singles Scheme allows two to four single citizens to jointly buy an HDB flat from the open market. If you wish to buy a resale flat under the Joint Singles Scheme, you and the co-applicant(s) must meet the following eligibility conditions:
Citizenship
You must be Singapore Citizens.
Age
You must be at least 35 years of age (based on date of birth) at the point of submission of your resale flat application. This age criterion applies to both unmarried singles and divorcees.
As for widowed persons and orphans, the age criterion is at least 21. The orphan buying the resale flat must not have another sibling below the age of 35 buying a flat separately under the Orphans Scheme, SSC or Joint Singles Scheme.
Special Condition
You must buy the flat jointly as co-applicants.
Income Ceiling
There is no income ceiling (unless applying for CPF Housing Grant and/or an HDB loan).
Ownership of Private Residential Property
You can own private property (unless applying for CPF Housing Grant) but must live in the HDB resale flat.HDB InfoWEB : Buying A Resale Flat - Eligibility Scheme - Joint ...
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u think SG is very stubborn?
SG is more liberal in gay issue than HK
Retuers ignorant on Sg gay issue
SG already NO OBJECTION to gay/lesbian
Gay professor work in NUS & bring his partner here
Is it clear?Just do it with right person in right place with right protection.
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Even hetreosexual people should not be doing it in public places what.
What talk him?
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welcome to singapore
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Originally posted by charlize:
Even hetreosexual people should not be doing it in public places what.
What talk him?
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Originally posted by charlize:
Even hetreosexual people should not be doing it in public places what.
What talk him?
hey if the girl's good looking i certainly wouldn't mind!
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Obviously the Minister is unaware of the extent in nocturnal creativity in public places..
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Originally posted by charlize:
Even hetreosexual people should not be doing it in public places what.
What talk him?
no lah, i see some uncles and aunties and also foreigners do it at ECP lor when i was jogging with my dogs. Then when my dogs barked at them they quickly pack up and move. Can see the backside also///'''yak! -
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
hey if the girl's good looking i certainly wouldn't mind!
wha lau...man, really can sell their pride and soul for a beautiful gal. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Dunt do it in public place:Law Minister tells gays.
Do's & Don't's of gays in Singapore?
I cant find the following in English medias.
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp090706_001.shtml
valid for 7 days
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Lion, why you so interested to follow the news ar??? You gay lion ar?? Lion gay or hetero can do anywhere lah, dun worry -
Originally posted by angel7030:
Lion, why you so interested to follow the news ar??? You gay lion ar?? Lion gay or hetero can do anywhere lah, dun worrywell well well.......can i keep my privacy?
2.Wat the minister mean is please do not do in public toilets,cars,car parks...
Behind closed door with willing and adults is ok.Understand?
3.can i remind u that so long u do with right person,at the right place,
it is perfectly fine to Singapore government.Is it clear?
Singapore Laws Minister said--
Singapore rules out decriminalising gay sex - Yahoo! India News
In a dialogue with local residents in Singapore, its Law Minister K Shanmugam said Section 377 would remain, as homosexuality was still not accepted by most Singaporeans.
"We have the law. We say it won''t be enforced.
Is it totally clear? We, sometimes in these things, have to accept a bit of messiness. And the way the society is going, we don''t think it''s fair for us to prosecute people who say that they are homosexual," Singapore media quoted Shanmugam as saying today.
But he said that while the government would not take the lead in repealing the law, the legal courts in Singapore had the power to decide how the law was interpreted and applied. PTI JB.
Is it clear,dear?
3.LKY said SG police would not kick down the door to look
for gays.Is it clear,darling?
4.Government alreday allow gays to buy public housing --HDB-- and private
properties to stay under one roof.Do u know dear?
But u guys still say PAP is anti--gays.Tell me which other G20 countries allow gays to buy public housing as well as private properties together?
5.Gavaman has to make her stand very clear that gays is not favourable.
Therefore,sect 377 cant be repealed.
6.This is a problem of mind set.We have been told that SG is anti--gays.
Tell me if Hong Kong,Taiwan,the two so called liberal countries,allow
gays to buiy public housing.
7.If PAP want to make life of gays difficult,then HDB Joint Singles Scheme
HDB InfoWEB : Buying A Resale Flat - Eligibility Scheme - Joint ...
will only allow related singles to buy HDB.
Now,u and your partners can buy HDB to stay under one roof.
But u say PAP is anti--gays!!wat can i say?
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Hong Kong do not allow gays
A.to buy public housing in resale market nor
B. to rent from HK gavaman public housing
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A.to buy public housing in resale market
Currently,HK suspend to sell direct flat from gavaman to support property market!!
Therefore ,i just talk abt resale market.Sorry,only family or one single can buy
from resale market.
http://www.housingauthority.gov.hk/en/residential/hossecondarymarket/0,,,00.html
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B to rent from HK gavaman public housing
http://www.housingauthority.gov.hk/en/residential/prh/rentaflat/0,,,00.html
Housing for Families Housing for Non-elderly One-person Applicants -
u think SG is very stubborn?
SG is more liberal in gay issue than HK
Retuers ignorant on Sg gay issue
Sg NO OBJECTION to gay/lesbian?
Gay professor work in NUS & bring his partner here
Is it clear?Just do it with right person in right place.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
wha lau...man, really can sell their pride and soul for a beautiful gal.What ｉsaid is what all heterosexual men want but are afraid to admit anyway!
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
What ｉsaid is what all heterosexual men want but are afraid to admit anyway!
You sure? -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
You sure?A couple humping away in public, you wouldn't wish the female to be attractive?
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
What ｉsaid is what all heterosexual men want but are afraid to admit anyway!
you thing women dun wan is it??? but we have to be civilise ya. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
well well well.......can i keep my privacy?
2.Wat the minister mean is please do not do in public toilets,cars,car parks...
Behind closed door with willing and adults is ok.Understand?
3.can i remind u that so long u do with right person,at the right place,
it is perfectly fine to Singapore government.Is it clear?
Singapore Laws Minister said--
Singapore rules out decriminalising gay sex - Yahoo! India News
Is it clear,dear?
3.LKY said SG police would not kick down the door to look
for gays.Is it clear,darling?
4.Government alreday allow gays to buy public housing --HDB-- and private
properties to stay under one roof.Do u know dear?
But u guys still say PAP is anti--gays.Tell me which other G20 countries allow gays to buy public housing as well as private properties together?
5.Gavaman has to make her stand very clear that gays is not favourable.
Therefore,sect 377 cant be repealed.
6.This is a problem of mind set.We have been told that SG is anti--gays.
Tell me if Hong Kong,Taiwan,the two so called liberal countries,allow
gays to buiy public housing.
7.If PAP want to make life of gays difficult,then HDB Joint Singles Scheme
HDB InfoWEB : Buying A Resale Flat - Eligibility Scheme - Joint ...
will only allow related singles to buy HDB.
Now,u and your partners can buy HDB to stay under one roof.
But u say PAP is anti--gays!!wat can i say?
the problem is that there are gay in the govt too, so they are setting up rules to help themselves. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
u think SG is very stubborn?
SG is more liberal in gay issue than HK
Retuers ignorant on Sg gay issue
Sg NO OBJECTION to gay/lesbian?
Gay professor work in NUS & bring his partner here
Is it clear?Just do it with right person in right place.
2 gays in a room is OK, but 3 gays in a room, ok or not? -
ok. closed thread.
GAY NEWS AGAIN. a everyday happening. nothing special, nothing good for an attraction, nothing actually happened
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Originally posted by Fire Cracker:
ok. closed thread.
GAY NEWS AGAIN. a everyday happening. nothing special, nothing good for an attraction, nothing actually happened
of course nothing special for you, you gay mah