Racial Harmony Day and National Integration Council
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
Facts, inferences, lies, exaggeration, prejudice....are all bundled in one package called news, and is given through all kinds of media. It blinds and suffocate you if you are unable to differentiate the differences.
there were underlying current before mumbai were attacked, before 911, before the wallstreets fat cats ran away with billions of $... what kind of actions could have been taken to protect innocent civilians from such deadly forces, physical or financial. Who make the call on what are the necessary actions, include the level of forces involved. that is the task of the government official whom we elected, to tackle those who take up arms, who abuse freedom for their own agenda and pocket, and these people are also citizens!
so what are you witnessing? "govt willing to use of force to justify their control over its people in the name of state interest?" If you are referring to the unrest in Xinjiang, then you are either totally misinformed or you had chosen to ignore the fact, just because this happens in China.
Should the Chinese government allows the two ethnic races to attack each other? should they act otherwise? are actions taken by government to control them, from rioting, yes!
Did the two ethnic races fight because of religion, cultural difference, or unhappy over distribution of wealth and job opportunities?
there are all kinds of people, the law abiding ones, those who take law in their own hands, those who are blind and prejudice, for and against the government, .... together we are ONE PEOPLE from whom the government should protect? NO!
Sex, lies and Video tapes? where have you been this is not the 90s. Haven't you notice that gov that i listed are quick to shut down social networking site that captured demonstration and excessive forces against civilian ? info black out.
I suggest you re-look at the current changes how information are being transmitted. Social networking site no longer subjected to political correctness and political agenda ..........Remember the Iranian girl Neda on Youtude. What you see is what you get. And it is the news media that chase after the story. site popularity are subjected to individual and generation gap.
I am talking about re-accessing the interaction and the roles of govt to its people. ultimately elected official needs to answer to the people. Not the other way round.
Do not mistaken between law enforcement to keep social correctness vs to help to maintain status quo of politicial interest. Military to keep the country from outside threats not use against its own citizens.
You only think this is about PRC....PRC deserve exactly what is happening. It won't be the last street protest. it won't be the last clash between ethnic hans and non hans. Not all clash are criminal.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
if you and your neighbor start exchanging flying stones, both of you have become public nuiance and you are also endangering other neighbors. don't the police have the right to come into your house to take away all the stones? You need to fix yourself first, and exercise self control or others will control you.
So what is the difference between xinjiang and tibet, one is muslim minority and the others buddists, one is populated by uyghurs and hans, the others by tibetan and hans. You can also find other minorities in both region, and in other region like gansu, ninxia...
What is similar, the ones who took to the streets are called mob, there were tibetan mob, hans mob and uyghurs mob. when they killed, blood is red.
What happened in xinjiang today is a result of two uyghurs minority killed in a dispute in a factory in guangzhou over job opportunities. I don't know what social intergration problem there is, but the uyghurs are free to practice their muslim faith, the tibetan their brand of buddism, and there are 30 millions muslim in China, why do you see there is a need to "terminates the entire ethnic to intergrate the entire region"? this is very strong, evil, uncalled for accusation.
why do you see there is a need to "terminates the entire ethnic to intergrate the entire region"? this is very strong, evil, uncalled for accusation.
This article was exploring the myth of decreasing population in Tibet in relation to the genocide. But in the process the authors admitted the following. From the Horse mouth.....
Institute of Economic Research, State Department of Planning Commission, Beijing) Asian Ethnicity, Volume 1, Number 1, March 2000
Compared with those debatable allegations of `genocide’ and `forced birth control’ , the
present author believes that the suggestion of population transfer of non-Tibetans into the traditionally Tibetan regions, or ethnographic Tibet, is basically true, considering the fact that before 1949 there were only a handful of Han Chinese traders in political Tibet. It is also true that this population transfer has been gaining momentum in recent years. This will certainly affect Tibetan culture. (Yan page 19)
A seperate stats was published on the Tibet uprising.
Cause of death U-Tsang Kham Amdo Total
Prison and labour camp 93,477 64,977 14,784 174,138
Execution 28,267 32,266 96,225 156,758
Battle 143,255 240,410 49,042 432,607
Starvation 131,253 89,916 121,982 413,151
Torture 27,951 48,840 15,940 92,931
Suicide 3,375 3,952 1,675 9,002
All 427,478 480,261 299,648 1,278,387
aOffce of Tibet, Human Rights.
although number could not be fully accountable but i give and take 80 degree of confident still have a lot of deadbody to count. A systematic of taking away culture and population transfer is as good as dismantling your heritage.
PS: I am not use to author citing him/herself as a third person.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
Sex, lies and Video tapes? where have you been this is not the 90s. Haven't you notice that gov that i listed are quick to shut down social networking site that captured demonstration and excessive forces against civilian ? info black out.
I suggest you re-look at the current changes how information are being transmitted. Social networking site no longer subjected to political correctness and political agenda ..........Remember the Iranian girl Neda on Youtude. What you see is what you get. And it is the news media that chase after the story. site popularity are subjected to individual and generation gap.
I am talking about re-accessing the interaction and the roles of govt to its people. ultimately elected official needs to answer to the people. Not the other way round.
Do not mistaken between law enforcement to keep social correctness vs to help to maintain status quo of politicial interest. Military to keep the country from outside threats not use against its own citizens.
You only think this is about PRC....PRC deserve exactly what is happening. It won't be the last street protest. it won't be the last clash between ethnic hans and non hans. Not all clash are criminal.
No government in the world believe that there can be a completely news black out, given the technology available to the common citizens today, especially places where foreigners are free to get in and out.
In this modern age, there is no lack of info on any events anywhere in the world. It is the interpretation of such info that are subject to individual, with different upbringing, political interest, private agenda, objective or subjective mindset... and most important of all, knowledge needed in interpretation, the wisdom in make judgement.
Indeed, law enforcement is always needed to maintain social stability. In this days, the use of force of any kind by anybody that disturb social stability, and resulting in death to innocent citizens is termed Terrorism. Even in the days where martyr died for their cause in revolution would avoid causing any harm to innocent civilian. When demonstration turned riots targetting at innocent citizens instead of the authorities, there is no "social correctness" in any sense.
We are supposed to talk about how to promote racial harmony and national integration, not to encourage segregation and street riots for individual agenda.
Exactly why does "PRC deserve exactly what is happening"? why do the over 400 citizens deserve to die in urumuqi? and thousands deserve to lose their loved ones?
Causing death to innocent people for your own interest is criminal, encouraging any form of action that result in death of innocent people is equally guilty of murder.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
why do you see there is a need to "terminates the entire ethnic to intergrate the entire region"? this is very strong, evil, uncalled for accusation.
This article was exploring the myth of decreasing population in Tibet in relation to the genocide. But in the process the authors admitted the following. From the Horse mouth.....
Institute of Economic Research, State Department of Planning Commission, Beijing) Asian Ethnicity, Volume 1, Number 1, March 2000
Compared with those debatable allegations of `genocide’ and `forced birth control’ , the
present author believes that the suggestion of population transfer of non-Tibetans into the traditionally Tibetan regions, or ethnographic Tibet, is basically true, considering the fact that before 1949 there were only a handful of Han Chinese traders in political Tibet. It is also true that this population transfer has been gaining momentum in recent years. This will certainly affect Tibetan culture. (Yan page 19)
A seperate stats was published on the Tibet uprising.
Cause of death U-Tsang Kham Amdo Total
Prison and labour camp 93,477 64,977 14,784 174,138
Execution 28,267 32,266 96,225 156,758
Battle 143,255 240,410 49,042 432,607
Starvation 131,253 89,916 121,982 413,151
Torture 27,951 48,840 15,940 92,931
Suicide 3,375 3,952 1,675 9,002
All 427,478 480,261 299,648 1,278,387
aOffce of Tibet, Human Rights.
although number could not be fully accountable but i give and take 80 degree of confident still have a lot of deadbody to count. A systematic of taking away culture and population transfer is as good as dismantling your heritage.
PS: I am not use to author citing him/herself as a third person.
what does the riots in urumuqi has to do with Tibet? is the term "genocide" appropriate in this context?
the people in Human Rights must have found out that abuses of human rights anywhere in the world, as long as there are differences, in the US, or the UK, and the largest democratic country in the world, may be that is the reason why they want to preserve Tibet as their ultimate Shangri La.
In this era of globalization, name me any country that is not affected by external culture, in singapore, a small country, is feeling the impact of different people and culture from the region, the culture from hollywood, we are only glad that boollywood has little effect here for we know what to choose, yes, ultimately it is what the citizens choose, between traditional culture/heritage and foreign culture that comes with technology.
The tibetian youths are like youths anywhere else, want to have MP4, watch transformers, and drink starbuck, of course much to the displeasure of their parents. anything new? who is dismantling their heritage?
there are over 5 millions tibetians in China. while Hans, and other minorities are moving into tibet, hundreds of thousands of tibetians have moved out of tibet into other provinces to make better living. They are in the same country! ask anybody in china, who need any special permit to travel anywhere in China now? what systematic population transfer? you are obviously still living in the 70'.
While I do not necessarily agree with everything the Chinese government are doing, or the US government, or even the Singapore government, I do not always put the blame on them just because somebody got constipation in their a s s and diarrhea of the brain.
We should go back and talk about how to promote intergration and racial harmony, you are given more choice than what your father was given in his days, so don't put the blame on the government if you do not follow your father's tradition.
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Racial Harmony is for Singapore's races. Immigrants especially those post-1965 should not be compulsory. It should be optional. If any Viet or Pinoy wants to integrate into Singapore society, then ask the women to marry the Singapore men lor. Then this is called integration!
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Racial Harmony is for Singapore's races. Immigrants especially those post-1965 should not be compulsory. It should be optional. If any Viet or Pinoy wants to integrate into Singapore society, then ask the women to marry the Singapore men lor. Then this is called integration!
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
what does the riots in urumuqi has to do with Tibet? is the term "genocide" appropriate in this context?
the people in Human Rights must have found out that abuses of human rights anywhere in the world, as long as there are differences, in the US, or the UK, and the largest democratic country in the world, may be that is the reason why they want to preserve Tibet as their ultimate Shangri La.
In this era of globalization, name me any country that is not affected by external culture, in singapore, a small country, is feeling the impact of different people and culture from the region, the culture from hollywood, we are only glad that boollywood has little effect here for we know what to choose, yes, ultimately it is what the citizens choose, between traditional culture/heritage and foreign culture that comes with technology.
The tibetian youths are like youths anywhere else, want to have MP4, watch transformers, and drink starbuck, of course much to the displeasure of their parents. anything new? who is dismantling their heritage?
there are over 5 millions tibetians in China. while Hans, and other minorities are moving into tibet, hundreds of thousands of tibetians have moved out of tibet into other provinces to make better living. They are in the same country! ask anybody in china, who need any special permit to travel anywhere in China now? what systematic population transfer? you are obviously still living in the 70'.
While I do not necessarily agree with everything the Chinese government are doing, or the US government, or even the Singapore government, I do not always put the blame on them just because somebody got constipation in their a s s and diarrhea of the brain.
We should go back and talk about how to promote intergration and racial harmony, you are given more choice than what your father was given in his days, so don't put the blame on the government if you do not follow your father's tradition.
Racial harmony is about bringing on sensitive issue that people disagreed on and not throw stone at one another.
While it is one thing to cheers about the past, but don't forget there are alot more issue ahead. Opening new ideas on new dimension to tackle old issue. Not to bury differences and remain status quo.
Todays there are generation gap, racial gap. idealogy differences. But action of govt to address such issue remain outdated..... As we speak.....
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6666787.ece
"I told the police that we wanted freedom and a peaceful life. Just let my five men go", said Tarsun Gul
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-protest10-2009jul10,0,622206.story
Reporting from Tehran and Beirut -- Violent clashes erupted today in downtown Tehran between more than a thousand determined young men and women chanting, "Death to the dictator" and "God is great" and security forces wielding truncheons.
The screams of a woman being beaten could be heard from nearby buildings, a witness said. Business owners could be seen hustling protesters into their buildings to shield them from plainclothes officers and anti-riot police who fired tear gas canisters. -
PA's chairman calls for new ways to engage residents
SINGAPORE: The People's Association (PA) turns 50 next year and chairman Lim Boon Heng has called for new ways to reach out to more residents.
Mr Lim, speaking at a grassroots seminar on Sunday, said using technology is one way to engage more youths and foster social cohesion.
Singapore today is becoming an increasingly diverse and complex society, with people of different races, cultures and nationalities living together, and these differences can divide the nation.
"I think in recent times, we have seen people becoming more religious. There's nothing wrong with that. But if each of us, in our own religion, (shut) ourselves (within it), then we narrow the common space among Singaporeans," said Mr Lim, who is also a Minister in the Prime Minister's Office.
Against this backdrop, he said grassroots leaders must find new ways to engage residents, such as through the Internet and mobile phones.
But he stressed that the fundamental role of PA remains unchanged – that is, to promote racial harmony, social cohesion and national resilience.
Mr Lim also spoke about reaching out to new audiences and said he hoped that more successful Singaporeans would give not just their money, but also their time.
This would give them a better understanding of problems that the disadvantaged face and hopefully, would result in more programmes to help this group of people.
Another area of focus is the youths. The PA Youth Movement is the largest youth organisation in Singapore.
Mr Lim said more could be done to help young people develop a common identity and understand the fundamental values behind Singapore's success, such as meritocracy and multi-racialism.
He also urged grassroots leaders to examine the effectiveness of their programmes and organise them in a way that facilitates what he calls "meaningful" interaction among residents.
He added that grassroots leaders would also need to network with other community and professional partners.
"If we are to move beyond being just event organisers to becoming facilitators and connectors, we will need to develop critical skill-sets in our staff and volunteers," Mr Lim said.Lim Boon Heng calls Singapore multi-racialist. How multi-racialist can it be? I thought it's just for the Chinese, Malays, Indians, Eurasians and other Muslim minorities to live in?
Did we really shut ourselves in our own religious groups?
Not really what! I still see Chinese, Malays and Indians interacing together in harmony, especially at our local grassroot events.
And what about "nationalities living together"? Unless he says that Racial Harmony Day is for the Viets, Pinoys, Burmeses and Thais as well. This is still not portrayed in local media when it comes to Nationalistic TV commercials for example.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Actually I am not too confident on sg trying to integrate the PRC new citizens into sg society.
They have no need to, given the large base of their fellow countrymen all living in singapore.
Most of the time, they stick to their own people - you see groups of 2,3 or 5 usually together in town, nieghbourhoods, malls, cinemas etc.
Very rarely do you see them mixing with the locals.
Them are just a bunch of racist people.
They no like to mix with other races, that's why they keep to themselves.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Them are just a bunch of racist people.
They no like to mix with other races, that's why they keep to themselves.
Certainly not the impression i'm getting from my colleagues, so when's the last time you've been in Singapore? -
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Certainly not the impression i'm getting from my colleagues, so when's the last time you've been in Singapore?
when was the last time you dealt directly with PRC outside of your comfort zone?Now we are even more screwed............. could be mistakenly be targetted because some idiot could never differentiate between PRC and Singaporean chinese when travelling oversea for business.
URUMQI, China: China issued a security alert on Wednesday to its citizens in Algeria after Al-Qaeda reportedly vowed to avenge the deaths of Muslims killed during ethnic unrest in this northwestern Chinese city.
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A note on China....Something got to give in......
Rethinking Policies, Language Of Ethnicity
But there is debate beyond the rhetoric. For years, critics have suggested a re-examination of China's Soviet-style system of "autonomous zones" and affirmative action for Tibetans, Uighurs and other minorities.
Retired Nanjing University professor Wang Yingguo argues that these policies have actually made it harder for minorities to develop a Chinese identity.
"The general trend of the Chinese nation has been for assimilation. But the establishment of these autonomous zones has created an artificial separation between races and locked in their differences," he said.
Wang and other critics also suggest updating the language of ethnicity. Chinese use the term minzu to mean both "ethnic group" and "nation." In fact, China has been a multiethnic empire for centuries.
But until about 100 years ago, Chinese saw their nation as limited to the Han ethnic group. Tibetans, Uighurs, Manchus and other ethnic groups were not considered Chinese. Wang says these concepts remain muddled.
"We say that China has 56 ethnic groups. But our national anthem refers to 'the Chinese ethnic group.' So what do we mean by ethnicity? It's a mess," he said.
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Originally posted by dare82:
Racial Harmony is for Singapore's races. Immigrants especially those post-1965 should not be compulsory. It should be optional. If any Viet or Pinoy wants to integrate into Singapore society, then ask the women to marry the Singapore men lor. Then this is called integration!
then we singapore gal marry who ar??? are you prepare for intergrated resort or not? -
Originally posted by Arapahoe:
A note on China....Something got to give in......
Rethinking Policies, Language Of Ethnicity
But there is debate beyond the rhetoric. For years, critics have suggested a re-examination of China's Soviet-style system of "autonomous zones" and affirmative action for Tibetans, Uighurs and other minorities.
Retired Nanjing University professor Wang Yingguo argues that these policies have actually made it harder for minorities to develop a Chinese identity.
"The general trend of the Chinese nation has been for assimilation. But the establishment of these autonomous zones has created an artificial separation between races and locked in their differences," he said.
Wang and other critics also suggest updating the language of ethnicity. Chinese use the term minzu to mean both "ethnic group" and "nation." In fact, China has been a multiethnic empire for centuries.
But until about 100 years ago, Chinese saw their nation as limited to the Han ethnic group. Tibetans, Uighurs, Manchus and other ethnic groups were not considered Chinese. Wang says these concepts remain muddled.
"We say that China has 56 ethnic groups. But our national anthem refers to 'the Chinese ethnic group.' So what do we mean by ethnicity? It's a mess," he said.
China will see itself going thru the difficulties of containing racial harmony since opening it door. Communism is no more a force to control it. They are facing what the Americans are facing in the last century where blacks and chinese are slaves and a far class below the white. What the chinese will be facing more in future will be much worst then what the american does in the earlier last century.
And since modernisation, china have gone lax on religion issue, it allows temples, churches and mosques to flourish, that can lead to membership struggle and different perspective views that only encourage more anger and oppression. And for decades, the leader rule their country base on communism will find it hard to understand and control racisism issues. They will not have the skill and system to govern over it.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
when was the last time you dealt directly with PRC outside of your comfort zone?Now we are even more screwed............. could be mistakenly be targetted because some idiot could never differentiate between PRC and Singaporean chinese when travelling oversea for business.
URUMQI, China: China issued a security alert on Wednesday to its citizens in Algeria after Al-Qaeda reportedly vowed to avenge the deaths of Muslims killed during ethnic unrest in this northwestern Chinese city.
ya...singaporean are screwed already, nobody can differentiate between singaporean sikh and the taleban, the singaporean indian and the hostile indian terrorists who attacked mumbai (or are they pakistani, I also cannot differentiate, anyway they killed an innocent Chinese young lady), the moderate malay muslim
and the hostile JI....obviously the idiot also cannot differentiate between the Chinese Singaporean, Chinese from HK, Taiwan and the ABC.
so either you don't go overseas and stay in your comfort zone, or paint your black, like an indian, or bleach yourself white, like MJ...in either case, will you feel safer?
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it dun matter if you are black or white...MJ
eat Mojo mee
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Originally posted by angel7030:
China will see itself going thru the difficulties of containing racial harmony since opening it door. Communism is no more a force to control it. They are facing what the Americans are facing in the last century where blacks and chinese are slaves and a far class below the white. What the chinese will be facing more in future will be much worst then what the american does in the earlier last century.
And since modernisation, china have gone lax on religion issue, it allows temples, churches and mosques to flourish, that can lead to membership struggle and different perspective views that only encourage more anger and oppression. And for decades, the leader rule their country base on communism will find it hard to understand and control racisism issues. They will not have the skill and system to govern over it.
China is facing an even greater task than the american. We don't see any black american speaking their native language, maintaining their original religion, but you will find more mosque in China, with 30m muslim, than in america.
would the chinese, the african, the maxican...survive in the US without speaking american?
To progress and develop, the manchurian learned reading and writing from the hans while teaching them how to ride and shoot, and that is why they ruled China for 400 yrs. today you don't see much difference between the manchu and the hans, even when the jap tried during WW2.
The other minorities were very much left on their own, especially in their culture, especially because the communists were only good at revolution. the minorities in china, like the minorities everywhere, will have to balance between technology and culture, starbuck or teh tarik?
Imagine a big nation like India, have to use English as a common language to communicate among themselves, it will be up to each and every race, family to decide how they pass on their culture and heritage.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
when was the last time you dealt directly with PRC outside of your comfort zone?Now we are even more screwed............. could be mistakenly be targetted because some idiot could never differentiate between PRC and Singaporean chinese when travelling oversea for business.
URUMQI, China: China issued a security alert on Wednesday to its citizens in Algeria after Al-Qaeda reportedly vowed to avenge the deaths of Muslims killed during ethnic unrest in this northwestern Chinese city.
And when have YOU dealt directly with PRC outside of your comfort zone? And how do you define such an exchange? That i walk down the streets of Urumqi in the midst of the riots?Or do you consider dealing with the Chinese dissidents in the USA as the solely objective source of information ? Who benefits by staying in America by exhorting the evils of the Chinese regime?
The people i talk with are common people who came here to work, you speak like i'm talking to the children of the prominent Chinese political leaders.
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
And when have YOU dealt directly with PRC outside of your comfort zone? And how do you define such an exchange? That i walk down the streets of Urumqi in the midst of the riots?Or do you consider dealing with the Chinese dissidents in the USA as the solely objective source of information ? Who benefits by staying in America by exhorting the evils of the Chinese regime?
The people i talk with are common people who came here to work, you speak like i'm talking to the children of the prominent Chinese political leaders.
what make you so sure that the PRC Chinese that resided in the US are dissidents?
Infact majority of the PRC are life style migrant who enjoy taking up US passport and travel back to china for vacation and buy up their own properties.I don't just talked to them i worked with them....both in and out of PRC. They are everywhere.
You perceived that getting information from US are biased that is because
1) SG is already drunning in PRC propaganda.
2) information within PRC are being block.
3) In the age of internet it is where u choose your info
4) Open to information and exchange of ideas.
if you can't deal with that.....think how do you debates within the US....u think everyone is civilizes? think again the public you tear you to pieces.....the challenges are how do you work with people that you don't necessary agreed with. Centainly not by force.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
China is facing an even greater task than the american. We don't see any black american speaking their native language, maintaining their original religion, but you will find more mosque in China, with 30m muslim, than in america.
would the chinese, the african, the maxican...survive in the US without speaking american?
To progress and develop, the manchurian learned reading and writing from the hans while teaching them how to ride and shoot, and that is why they ruled China for 400 yrs. today you don't see much difference between the manchu and the hans, even when the jap tried during WW2.
The other minorities were very much left on their own, especially in their culture, especially because the communists were only good at revolution. the minorities in china, like the minorities everywhere, will have to balance between technology and culture, starbuck or teh tarik?
Imagine a big nation like India, have to use English as a common language to communicate among themselves, it will be up to each and every race, family to decide how they pass on their culture and heritage.
hmmm i thought you started your paragraph with chicken and end the paragraph with eggs... : )
Thought this question of language and culture heritage is a round about circular events i don't think there is a answer to intergration...if you can't communicate with one another you can't intergrate but if you get the entire population to learn 1 language than you loose heritage.....remember SG govt was trying to get SG to learn Mandarin and English in the 70s.....thereafter in the 90s thru feedback they realized that we look chinese but with Western thinking.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
hmmm i thought you started your paragraph with chicken and end the paragraph with eggs... : )
Thought this question of language and culture heritage is a round about circular events i don't think there is a answer to intergration...if you can't communicate with one another you can't intergrate but if you get the entire population to learn 1 language than you loose heritage.....remember SG govt was trying to get SG to learn Mandarin and English in the 70s.....thereafter in the 90s thru feedback they realized that we look chinese but with Western thinking.
Dont' think Singapore ever promote speaking 1 language! there are 4 official languages here. and if there is any prejudice, or preference over any particular language, it is English.
but don't blame the school or the government for many in Singapore who lost their heritage and culture. HK chinese came under the brits for 150 years but they are still very much Chinese.
On the other hand, in this era of globalization, people are influenced by other culture through the net and tv, without knowing the language. disneyland came right into france, but they are not many micky mouse in france, but many singaporean grow up donald duck. many accept imported culture when they hardly speak the language.
Many Singaporean lost their culture to not because of they had to speak mandarin, they became banana because they are not strong in their own culture and they dont value their heritage.
Obviously the government fails in getting singaporean to speak their mother tongue, especially the chinese. we don't have malay family who speak only english and nothing else.
it is about time Chinese singaporean realize that it is not the choice between english and mandarin or any dialects. We can have english, mandarin, malay and chinese dialects... In europe, people speak french, german, spanish, italy....and they are united as one EU., not at the expense of their culture.
nobody need to lose their culture, if you are only capable of speaking one language, what do you choose?
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The riots in Singapore and Malaysia were started by the different races, were that something done by the government?
Among other things.....
Upon Singapore's integration with Malaysia, UMNO and PAP have made agreement not to interfere onto each other electorates.
Prior to the race riots, both UNMO and PAP had breached this agreement. UMNO had formed a political wing in Singapore and PAP had made inroad into Malaysia with the likes of left-wing candidates, Devan Nair and others.
PAP realised that it was leading its Chinese majority Singaporeans down the road of second class citizenship. This was made worse by the merger referendum which the PAP urged citizens to join, espounding the benefits of merger.
At that moment, the only way PAP's vision of Malaysian's Malaysia can be realised was thru the ballot box - not here in Singapore but inroad into Malaysia.
UNMO would have seen this as an assault on both fronts - cropping Chinese encirclement and menacing communist threat.
Also, the UNMO's political wing in Singapore were of racial based, of racial agenda.The riots in Malaysis and Singapore certainly have political influences and spins. So it is not simply as having racial harmony campaigns and voila everything is nice and fine. Understand this, younger Singaporeans.
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PAP realised that it was leading its Chinese majority Singaporeans down the road of second class citizenship.
I read that Lee Kuan Yew agreed to the racial policies of UMNO before merger, but later after merger he changed his position and used the racial issue to gain influence in Malaysia among the minority groups.
So UMNO saw Lee Kuan Yew as a two headed snake.
Lim Chin Siong and his BS opposed the merger due to these concerns, but not PAP.
This is according to Said Zahari's memoirs.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
I read that Lee Kuan Yew agreed to the racial policies of UMNO before merger, but later after merger he changed his position and used the racial issue to gain influence in Malaysia among the minority groups.
So UMNO saw Lee Kuan Yew as a two headed snake.
Lim Chin Siong and his BS opposed the merger due to these concerns, but not PAP.
This is according to Said Zahari's memoirs.
I am unsure of your claim that LKY agreed to UMNO race-based policy. To be fair, it was an era of double-dealing and more dealing.
My reading up of LKY is that he was not a race-agenda person but a power-agenda person. He envisaged a federation Malaysia with power sharing scheme that of a Malay Prime Minister and a Chinese Vice Prime Minister.
He failed to realised that not everyone viewed power in the same light as him.
Ah Chia, I just want the younger generation of Singaporean not to be so naive as to believe that race harmony is simply singing songs and embracing each others. -
First vol. of Said Zahari's memoirs contains more details but not available online, but a chapter from his second vol. can be found below, it deals with Lee Kuan Yew's schemes to destroy his rivals within Singapore:
Dark Clouds Over Singapore
http://books.google.com.sg/books?id=Qn