I pity Singaporeans
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Pitiful Singaporeans
After the despots, foreigners come next, follwed by the running dogs and finally the average citizen in terms of benefiting from all the hard work everyone here puts in.
The despots take money from Singapore and lose to foreigners and even after the losses in ths tens (if not a hundred billion) of billions, they can show a profit. Imagine how much the profit from Singaporeans!!!
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Pitiful Singaporeans
After the despots, foreigners come next, follwed by the running dogs and finally the average citizen in terms of benefiting from all the hard work everyone here puts in.
The despots take money from Singapore and lose to foreigners and even after the losses in ths tens (if not a hundred billion) of billions, they can show a profit. Imagine how much the profit from Singaporeans!!!
So why you kaopeh kaobu? You said you are a running dog what...
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I paid my income tax, paid GST but still no job in my working line most taken by foreigners . What happening now? Alot of experience and professional hard working locals got stuck on this. Do sumthing!
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one word to describe their antics here. pathetic
I have not seen one written comments so far that are so well articulated and well substantiated.
If I may use singlish here, all toking cock here lol
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Originally posted by Saadullahbakir:
I paid my income tax, paid GST but still no job in my working line most taken by foreigners . What happening now? Alot of experience and professional hard working locals got stuck on this. Do sumthing!
Can you accept US$200 per month? -
Originally posted by marcteng:
one word to describe their antics here. pathetic
I have not seen one written comments so far that are so well articulated and well substantiated.
If I may use singlish here, all toking cock here lol
marc, are you missing mine?
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of coz i can't accept US$200 p/month wht i said about foreigners in oil n gas industries some of them lack education n knowledge n yet still can get S$5K or more p/month.
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Originally posted by Saadullahbakir:
of coz i can't accept US$200 p/month wht i said about foreigners in oil n gas industries some of them lack education n knowledge n yet still can get S$5K or more p/month.
aiyo, Datuk, what is 5k nowaday, you aint see 6 figures paid guy who do nothing but golfing and flirting girls -
Originally posted by Saadullahbakir:
I paid my income tax, paid GST but still no job in my working line most taken by foreigners . What happening now? Alot of experience and professional hard working locals got stuck on this. Do sumthing!
migrate lah,...changi airport open 24hrs, so is the causeway checkpoints...just leave here and let them rot till dead. -
Originally posted by Saadullahbakir:
of coz i can't accept US$200 p/month wht i said about foreigners in oil n gas industries some of them lack education n knowledge n yet still can get S$5K or more p/month.
Simply, you are not a specialist, what do you know of rigging, drilling and burning? Oil fields are not local and timing and skills are crucial to the operation. S$5k and above are for oil riggers who stay outfield. -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Simply, you are not a specialist, what do you know of rigging, drilling and burning? Oil fields are not local and timing and skills are crucial to the operation. S$5k and above are for oil riggers who stay outfield.
can work as an oil rig security guard mah,..free lodging, free food, and high paid too. Must be able to handle tough strong men. -
Originally posted by Annilator47:
@coolgeek84
lets just say you are a singaporean ( and i am a foriegn person working here)....does it look good to tax you (well u know there is the GST here )..use your tax money to finance my sons scolarship to come here to study..how would you feel??? i for one would be quite pleased.
just assume again you are a middle class singaporean worker paying for your HDB home loans...etc etc..seems to you the money is never enough to keep the bills at bay..your boss is eying on cheaper foriegn talents and (you knowing full well that these people will not last long in the job and will fly after offered a higher pay) while at the same time the economic storm looms directly ahead of the company you work in..and to add salt to the wound, you might be included in the list of people to get "axed" in favour for foriegn talent because of their cheaper salary but substandard job performance, how would you feel?
lastly what would you do if your investigation leads to the ruling party that has allow employers to go through the "loopholes" of the system?
I would appericate your sincere reply..and i will be waiting for it.
Hi there.. I am glad that people like you exist.. Seriously, I don't mind arguing with a sensible person and losing or what. At the end of the day, both gain some knowledge in any case..
To take your first case, about using tax paid by locals to fund scholarships for foreigners. First and foremost, the public had decided to appoint a particular party to rule the country. Which means the majority of the decisions taken by the ruling party are supported by the citizens and hence they had put the party in power. The citizens had decided that the party had a level head and is capable of taking decisions on their behalf. Which means that they are indirect supporters of the majority of the decisions taken by the ruling party.
In this case, fact is, I pay GST as well. Means I am in a way funding your children's studies fully knowing that you are a foreigner. Yes, there will be people (including myself) displeased with that. Who made the decision to use tax to fund scholarships? The ruling party. Who put the ruling party in power? The people. Who can change this? The people. So I will have to take action to make any changes to this. The public has to do something.
As for the second scenario, I would like to get some facts cleared first. I am referring to the real life situations and experiences in my working life so far. I have clearly noticed that (mostly) foreigners tend to stay longer in their jobs rather than their local counterparts. I have also clearly noticed that (mostly) foreigners deliver same level of performance as their local counterparts, if not they are sometimes many times better than their local counterparts.
In any case, I will use your hypothetical conditions for this. Just go back to your para again and remove the word Singaporean and replace the word HDB by the word housing. Notice my point? It is the same situation worldwide. Every single country, to some extent, is facing a similar issue. Take States, Canada, Europe, Australia and many others. All are having same issue. Singapore, in fact is better.
Take GST/VAT for example. Singapore is 7%. Australia is 10%. China is 17%, Europe ranges from 17% to 25%. Canada is 5%.
I wouldn't go into income tax, but rest assured, Singapore is again one of the lowest You can get more information from this site: http://www.worldwide-tax.com/
You have to constantly improve yourself. You have to give the boss a strong reason for him to keep you. Foreigners are not "God" like. They have limitations too. You can take up extra certifications and language skills. Of which, I am doing both. It takes hard work and effort of course. I have to sacrifice my personal time and study. But its for my survival and also for my struggle to get higher in the ladder. If I feel sad and depressed then there is nothing wrong with the Government. Its my own doing. The only person who can truly make you happy is yourself.
Look at the bright side, who says you are restricted to only this country? With the current age, the whole world is a playground for you. If you have so many bills, cut down on them. There is free internet with wireless@SG and there is free to air tv channels. Cut those down. There is ample of cheap food available, especially in Singapore. Reduce your eat outs. There are so many sales and discounts, utilise them. Ok maybe I am diverting a bit. lolz.. :p
As for your last part, again, who chose the ruling party? The public. Who can change the ruling party? The public. Who can form better options to replace the ruling party? The public. Thats why it is called democracy. To the people, for the people, by the people.
Anyway, I am just stating my opinions here and I do not, absolutely do not, support any particular party and neither do I denounce any other party. These are my plain opinions. To those who want to reply back with a proper factual arguement, please go ahead, but to those who wanna make stupid and worthless flame inducing comments, please keep them to yourselves.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
can work as an oil rig security guard mah,..free lodging, free food, and high paid too. Must be able to handle tough strong men.
Ask him to show his CISCO certification. -
Originally posted by coolgeek84:
Hi there.. I am glad that people like you exist.. Seriously, I don't mind arguing with a sensible person and losing or what. At the end of the day, both gain some knowledge in any case..
To take your first case, about using tax paid by locals to fund scholarships for foreigners. First and foremost, the public had decided to appoint a particular party to rule the country. Which means the majority of the decisions taken by the ruling party are supported by the citizens and hence they had put the party in power. The citizens had decided that the party had a level head and is capable of taking decisions on their behalf. Which means that they are indirect supporters of the majority of the decisions taken by the ruling party.
In this case, fact is, I pay GST as well. Means I am in a way funding your children's studies fully knowing that you are a foreigner. Yes, there will be people (including myself) displeased with that. Who made the decision to use tax to fund scholarships? The ruling party. Who put the ruling party in power? The people. Who can change this? The people. So I will have to take action to make any changes to this. The public has to do something.
As for the second scenario, I would like to get some facts cleared first. I am referring to the real life situations and experiences in my working life so far. I have clearly noticed that (mostly) foreigners tend to stay longer in their jobs rather than their local counterparts. I have also clearly noticed that (mostly) foreigners deliver same level of performance as their local counterparts, if not they are sometimes many times better than their local counterparts.
In any case, I will use your hypothetical conditions for this. Just go back to your para again and remove the word Singaporean and replace the word HDB by the word housing. Notice my point? It is the same situation worldwide. Every single country, to some extent, is facing a similar issue. Take States, Canada, Europe, Australia and many others. All are having same issue. Singapore, in fact is better.
Take GST/VAT for example. Singapore is 7%. Australia is 10%. China is 17%, Europe ranges from 17% to 25%. Canada is 5%.
I wouldn't go into income tax, but rest assured, Singapore is again one of the lowest You can get more information from this site: http://www.worldwide-tax.com/
You have to constantly improve yourself. You have to give the boss a strong reason for him to keep you. Foreigners are not "God" like. They have limitations too. You can take up extra certifications and language skills. Of which, I am doing both. It takes hard work and effort of course. I have to sacrifice my personal time and study. But its for my survival and also for my struggle to get higher in the ladder. If I feel sad and depressed then there is nothing wrong with the Government. Its my own doing. The only person who can truly make you happy is yourself.
Look at the bright side, who says you are restricted to only this country? With the current age, the whole world is a playground for you. If you have so many bills, cut down on them. There is free internet with wireless@SG and there is free to air tv channels. Cut those down. There is ample of cheap food available, especially in Singapore. Reduce your eat outs. There are so many sales and discounts, utilise them. Ok maybe I am diverting a bit. lolz.. :p
As for your last part, again, who chose the ruling party? The public. Who can change the ruling party? The public. Who can form better options to replace the ruling party? The public. Thats why it is called democracy. To the people, for the people, by the people.
Anyway, I am just stating my opinions here and I do not, absolutely do not, support any particular party and neither do I denounce any other party. These are my plain opinions. To those who want to reply back with a proper factual arguement, please go ahead, but to those who wanna make stupid and worthless flame inducing comments, please keep them to yourselves.
no holds barred in this mickey mouse forums.
they type what comes to their mind, which is what is feeding them, virtual life. they can be nerds, soft spoken in real life, and they cant live out their fantasy world in real life, so they come in hordes to forums and spew out hatred and nonsensical comments.
why take away their only enjoyment in life after work. its cruel u know.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Ask him to show his CISCO certification.
CISCO?? all fat fat smoking smoking...not qualify to work in rig. -
Originally posted by coolgeek84:
Hi there.. I am glad that people like you exist.. Seriously, I don't mind arguing with a sensible person and losing or what. At the end of the day, both gain some knowledge in any case..
To take your first case, about using tax paid by locals to fund scholarships for foreigners. First and foremost, the public had decided to appoint a particular party to rule the country. Which means the majority of the decisions taken by the ruling party are supported by the citizens and hence they had put the party in power. The citizens had decided that the party had a level head and is capable of taking decisions on their behalf. Which means that they are indirect supporters of the majority of the decisions taken by the ruling party.
In this case, fact is, I pay GST as well. Means I am in a way funding your children's studies fully knowing that you are a foreigner. Yes, there will be people (including myself) displeased with that. Who made the decision to use tax to fund scholarships? The ruling party. Who put the ruling party in power? The people. Who can change this? The people. So I will have to take action to make any changes to this. The public has to do something.
As for the second scenario, I would like to get some facts cleared first. I am referring to the real life situations and experiences in my working life so far. I have clearly noticed that (mostly) foreigners tend to stay longer in their jobs rather than their local counterparts. I have also clearly noticed that (mostly) foreigners deliver same level of performance as their local counterparts, if not they are sometimes many times better than their local counterparts.
In any case, I will use your hypothetical conditions for this. Just go back to your para again and remove the word Singaporean and replace the word HDB by the word housing. Notice my point? It is the same situation worldwide. Every single country, to some extent, is facing a similar issue. Take States, Canada, Europe, Australia and many others. All are having same issue. Singapore, in fact is better.
Take GST/VAT for example. Singapore is 7%. Australia is 10%. China is 17%, Europe ranges from 17% to 25%. Canada is 5%.
I wouldn't go into income tax, but rest assured, Singapore is again one of the lowest You can get more information from this site: http://www.worldwide-tax.com/
You have to constantly improve yourself. You have to give the boss a strong reason for him to keep you. Foreigners are not "God" like. They have limitations too. You can take up extra certifications and language skills. Of which, I am doing both. It takes hard work and effort of course. I have to sacrifice my personal time and study. But its for my survival and also for my struggle to get higher in the ladder. If I feel sad and depressed then there is nothing wrong with the Government. Its my own doing. The only person who can truly make you happy is yourself.
Look at the bright side, who says you are restricted to only this country? With the current age, the whole world is a playground for you. If you have so many bills, cut down on them. There is free internet with wireless@SG and there is free to air tv channels. Cut those down. There is ample of cheap food available, especially in Singapore. Reduce your eat outs. There are so many sales and discounts, utilise them. Ok maybe I am diverting a bit. lolz.. :p
As for your last part, again, who chose the ruling party? The public. Who can change the ruling party? The public. Who can form better options to replace the ruling party? The public. Thats why it is called democracy. To the people, for the people, by the people.
Anyway, I am just stating my opinions here and I do not, absolutely do not, support any particular party and neither do I denounce any other party. These are my plain opinions. To those who want to reply back with a proper factual arguement, please go ahead, but to those who wanna make stupid and worthless flame inducing comments, please keep them to yourselves.
Then again, walkovers are aplenty. Ever since mega-GRCs was implemented, no opposition has won a GRC, and that's a fact. And that's what make many people unhappy, because it seems like this is stifling the opposition in our 'democracy'.
The original purpose of the GRC is good, to have representation for the minorities race. But do we really need mega 5-men 6-men GRCs for that? With GRCs, many entered base on merits of their mentors, and not themselves.
The other reason why people are unhappy is because the guys spend 2 years in army. Put yourself in the shoes of a Singaporean male, and you can see that during uni studies, your foreign classmate peers or 1 year junior is now your senior... 2 years of youth sacrificed while your non-singaporean peers advanced ahead in society?
Other than that, I'm not too bothered... Because
1) I have made long-lasting valuable friendships in army
2) I sacrifice lots of personal time to catch up for the 2 years lost by working a 2nd full-time job (working 7 days a week, 8am to 10+ pm) -
@coolgeek84
first and formost i have to disagree with your first point..true..it is the people who choose the govt,but in my case, i am unfortunate in a way that i had no chance of choosing due to "walkovers" in my area.
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as eagle would have put it..try to see thru the eyes of why we resent, not how we resent, in the past i was also a pro-pap supporter..why you ask now the change, the reason does not lie in me..but in the change of the system and the people that has used to take care of singaporeans are either retired, or dead..if you are interested you can look into the wiki for maybe 3 people, notably ong teng cheong- former MP of toa payoh( used to be called kim keat at that time) and also the previous president and the deeds he's done..this is one person that will always remind me of what it means to be a singaporean at the very roots, other notable people are goh keng swee and lastly the man who held the state treasury firm, richard hu.
these are the people who know what we wnet thru and felt..unlike the present system where it is "sweet as honey in the mouth but turned sour in the tummy". to be honest in 2006 when LHL was pm, i thought there was going to be a change for the better, since his popular vote was not that good, however as time goes by till now..each implementation has what i put in " 1 step forward but 3 steps backward" sceneario.
i resent foriegners not due to the cause that i like it..but because it has been IMHO implemented at bad time where the economy is not like the 80s where a recessions span is once every 10 years here, now it seems the occurance span less than 10 years, e.g 1986, 1997 was in norm, but in 2001 incident and recent finance crisis has shown it less than the 10 year cycle. 1997 to 2001 is just a span of 4 years, while 2001 to 2008 is a span of 7 years thus have proven that this times of economy unstability is very apperent.
i also have some resentment in the systems since they leave loopholes to allow bosses to abuse the system.by the way your true life experiance are also in opposite to my true life experiance..you seen your share of the " good foriegners" , i too have my share..but i have also seem more "ugly" foriegners in their sub stanbdard work..so i know roughtly what their agenda is here,however you must spare a thought for the people here..1 of you take a job is equal one of us denied that job..all the more worst in times like these which you 'll unknowingly gather more hate and resentment just because you got it but we don't.
i hope you understand my meaning and apologize if i am too long winded here.
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Originally posted by eagle:
It will be less disruptive when you learn how to spell properly.
I don't need your useless comments, just shut the fark up and stick your dick up your own hemorrhoid ass. -
Originally posted by monday blue:
No, Singapore is good if you have income $10k+ a month. You can live in nice house, drive nice car and still have money in the bank. By the time you retire, your CPF will be fat and you don't have to worry about old age and sprialling medical costs.
10K a month. You can invest half of the money and be even richer. You don't need to think much about CPF at all. -
Originally posted by Lim Wei Ming:
10K a month. You can invest half of the money and be even richer. You don't need to think much about CPF at all.
Invest into where? -
Originally posted by angel7030:
CISCO?? all fat fat smoking smoking...not qualify to work in rig.My oh my, you certainly do have alot of time
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Invest into where?
shares, properties, bonds, forex etc. but remember to save as well. -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Invest into where?
I dunno where lah. I'm just saying. Usually people with like 10K income will have investments one. What they invest in i'm not sure. -
Originally posted by Lim Wei Ming:
I don't need your useless comments, just shut the fark up and stick your dick up your own hemorrhoid ass.I must have struck a raw nerve
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Originally posted by marcteng:
shares, properties, bonds, forex etc. but remember to save as well.invest in gold
invest in knowledge