Seelan Palay under investigation for One Nation under Lee
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Seelan Palay under investigation for One Nation under Lee
Thursday, 25 June 2009
Singapore Democrats
Mr Seelan Palay, maker of One Nation Under Lee (ONUL), was called up yesterday for questioning by the police. The 24 year-old Singaporean filmmaker had produced the 40-minute video narrating the rule of Singapore by Mr Lee Kuan Yew.
The film was screened at a private function last year at the Peninsular-Excelsior Hotel when the police and Media Development Authority officials barged in and seized the video. Since then ONUL has been making its rounds on YouTube attracting tens of thousands of views.
Below is the police interview as provided by Mr Seelan:Police investigation regarding my film One Nation Under Lee
Introductory question (Q): What do you know about the facts of the case? (Posed to me as "Tell me about yourself" by the officer but strangely printed as "What do you know about the facts of the case?" in the version I was to sign at the end.)
Answer (A): I am an artist.
Q1: Can you remember where you were on 17 May 2008 at about 2pm?
A1: I cannot recall.
Q2: I am now informing you that the investigation into this offence is of the incident that happened at Excelsior Hotel on 17 May 2008. Do you recall this incident?
A2: I do not recall it as an offence.
Q3: Can you explain why you were at the Excelsior Hotel on 17 may 2008?
A3: I remember that I was at the Excelsior Hotel on that date to attend a private event.
Q4: Are you aware of a film that was screened on this date at Tulip Room at Excelsior Hotel?
A4: Yes.
Q5: Were you in the Tulip Room when this film was screened?
A5: Yes.
Q6: What was this film all about?
A6: That is a private matter.
Q7: Who is the one who is in charge of this event?
A7: It was a private event so that is none of anyone's concern.
Q8: Do you know who brought the film to the Tulip Room on 17 May 2008?
A8: That is a private matter.
Q9: Do you know who prepared this film?
A9: That is a private matter.
Q10: How long was this film screened?
A10: I cannot recall.
Q11: Can you remember what happened after the film was screened?
A11: Some uninvited guests entered the room.
Q12: Do you know who these uninvited guests were?
A12: I cannot recall.Q13: Can you explain what happened after the film ended?
A13: The uninvited guests asked for the DVD of the film. The DVD was given to them.
Q14: How many copies were there in the room?
A14: I do not know.
Q15: Who handed over the DVD to the uninvited guests?
A15: I cannot recall.
Q16: What is your role in this private event?
A16: That is a private matter.
Q17: Who was operating the systems when the film was screened?
A17: That is a private matter.
Q18: Were you at Jalan Gelenggang on 16 May, one night before the incident?
A18: I cannot recall.
Q19: I'm going to show you a document, can you tell me if you have seen this document before? (Officer then shows me a letter from MDA apparently sent the night before the event with a warning not to screen the film. Films Act sections were quoted in the letter.)
A19: I cannot recall.
Q20: The officers who served this letter at No.2A Jalan Gelenggang claim that you were the one who received the letter. What have you got to say about this?
A20: Did they identify themselves as police officers? If they claim it was me, did they ask for my name or IC?
Q21: Did you remove the DVD from the player and hand it over to Madam ---? (Name undisclosed for the purposes of this post.)
A21: That is a private matter.
Q22: Do you have anything else to add?
A22: The uninvited guests should be investigated for barging in to and disrupting a private event. -
Using laws to curtail freedom of politcal expression that is contrary to theirs.
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Originally posted by deepak.c:
Using laws to curtail freedom of politcal expression that is contrary to theirs.
These are the people who rule Singapore be careful what you say...
Or you would offend them and make me happy! -
our police must be too free now that mas selamat has been arrested by the malaysian police.
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Q6: What was this film all about?
A6: That is a private matter.Oh dear,
when u were selling tickets at S$20 a piece.THIS WAS NOT a private matter lah.
u are open to public ,like a cinema.Ok?
u can looks for SDP article and many other sites to confirm.
2.If u want to play politics.Play smart.collect fee behind the door.
dunt commit political suicide,dunt let others catch your tails.
But pl dunt call us people with bended knees!!
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collect fee behind the door.
Why?
It is a crime to collect fee openly?
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Distribute a film wo a license is an offence.
Collect $$ before and behind a door just make thing worse.
why did they do such thing in a high profile?
If they want to change laws,then ,pl ask Chee Soon Juan do not
destory the once biggest opposition party in Parliment lah...
all opposition must play smart.Has British caught any tail of LKY?
The no.1 priority of opposition is to keep political alive.
Keep himself eligible for running next GE!!
In this internet era,i dunt see why u need gather to watch a film.
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Opposition nowaday is much easier than LKY era.
Oppostion party is just sitting in arm chair.type and press send.
Passively,they may get many readers.
can we turn the clock back to 1950's?
Then,if u want to communicate with people,
Print a flyer is very headache in 1950's
1.write very hard in wax paper for Chinese or type English in a stencile paper .
Turn a machine to make a copy.Go to street to distribute or post in
wall or lamp posts etc.
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Now,a hopeful opposition young lawyer face kicked out from next GE.
Thanks to this film!!
read the laws lah...
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/
FILMS ACT
(CHAPTER 107)
Licence for carrying on business of importing, making, distributing or exhibiting films
6. —(1) No person —- (a)
shall carry on any business, whether
or not the business is carried on for profit, of importing, making,
distributing or exhibiting films unless he is in possession of a
valid licence; or
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Has British caught any tail of LKY?
But Lee Kuan Yew is the dog of the british.
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Distribute a film wo a license is an offence.
Collect $$ before and behind a door just make thing worse.
why did they do such thing in a high profile?
If they want to change laws,then ,pl ask Chee Soon Juan do not
destory the once biggest opposition party in Parliment lah...
all opposition must play smart.Has British caught any tail of LKY?
The no.1 priority of opposition is to keep political alive.
Keep himself eligible for running next GE!!
In this internet era,i dunt see why u need gather to watch a film.
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Opposition nowaday is much easier than LKY era.
Oppostion party is just sitting in arm chair.type and press send.
Passively,they may get many readers.
can we turn the clock back to 1950's?
Then,if u want to communicate with people,
Print a flyer is very headache in 1950's
1.write very hard in wax paper for Chinese or type English in a stencile paper .
Turn a machine to make a copy.Go to street to distribute or post in
wall or lamp posts etc.
@@@@@@@@@'
Now,a hopeful opposition young lawyer face kicked out from next GE.
Thanks to this film!!
read the laws lah...
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/
FILMS ACT
(CHAPTER 107)
Licence for carrying on business of importing, making, distributing or exhibiting films
6. —(1) No person —(a) shall carry on any business, whether or not the business is carried on for profit, of importing, making, distributing or exhibiting films unless he is in possession of a valid licence; orStupid illiterate lap dog of the Government. Your ball-carrying and sycophantic posts wont move you along in this life. I suggest you start afresh by learning English. Or face the firing squad when the Young Turks take over.
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whats the outcome of the interview?
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Seelan Palay not only mocks Lee Kuan Yew, he flaunts it with glee!
Ladies and Gentlemen,
You have to read the article in the Singapore Democrat,http://www.yoursdp.org/, Dr. Chee Soon Juan's website, who is Lee Kuan Yew's enemy number one, "Seelan Palay under investigation for One Nation under Lee" of June 25, 2009.
What you will see is the beaming face of Seelan Palay, a Singapore human rights activist, grinning from ear to ear with delight, immediately after he attended a police station in the island republic, accused of allegedly insulting the Singapore dictator or something equally silly as expected of Lee Kuan Yew and his minions.
The film as you will see is not only completely innocuous, it is a very truthful account of the human rights violations and injustices perpetrated by the strongman against his people in the island.
As is routine practice there, Lee Kuan Yew's police are yet again going after a young man who is merely showing non violent peaceful dissent against his one party rule. This time, the dictator's police are interrogating human rights activist and film producer, Seelan Palay, for privately showing this film on May 17, 2008 at a hotel; a film which he personally produced and directed. The film was, to say the least, critical of the strongman and the way he runs the country. It can be freely watched on Internet youtube.
The article itself narrates verbatim the policeman's questions and Seelan's mocking, defiant answers. To almost all the questions put to him by the policeman, he not only refuses to answer, but appears to ask the police to go to Hell! The comedy of it all is not only his willingness to show his smiling face just after his police interrogation session, as if he had just knocked out the policeman in a boxing match; he goes on to mock and sneer him by publishing the questions and answers verbatim, telling the public that he cared two hoots for this police officer or for his master Lee Kuan Yew!
It is this sort of reaction from the people, who are expected to live in fear and obedience, that intolerably peeves Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's supreme strongman. In the past, Lee Kuan Yew's "digits" (this is what he has called Singapore citizens) whenever he arrests or questions them, froze with fear and immediately rolled over in submission. But now, quite often, when he abuses the law to silence them, the reaction appears the opposite. They no longer appear cowed and submissive, silenced and kicked into oblivion; instead they appear overjoyed at making Lee Kuan Yew look silly, by smiling and celebrating, as if they had just gone to a party!
The reaction to Lee's strong handedness appears changing . Instead of being ashamed, frightened and going away quietly, they are literally laughing at Lee Kuan Yew; telling him very clearly that he has a stupid set of laws (laws that deny fundamental human rights), and they have not the slightest of respect for it.
Dr. Chee Soon Juan, the human rights fighter, of the Singapore Democratic Party has been bankrupted and punished in more ways than one. Instead of quietly going away, he continues to expose the dictatorship for what it is, an intolerant dictatorship, by writing daily in his blog which is now read by almost every Singaporean who can read! And all Lee can do is to look silly and stand idly by. It seems, he has finally given up going after Dr. Chee Soon Juan.
Recently we had a number of young activists who were sent to jail because, believe it or not, they wore T Shirts emblazoned with a picture of a kangaroo in the vicinity of the High Court Singapore (the Kangaroo T Shirt Case). Lee Kuan Yew's compliant judge Judith Prakash appears to have been offended and she sent the 3 people to jail. I understand this woman is not taking any more cases and is in the process of leaving for Australia for good! Perhaps she can't take the heat anymore. She has now been known the world over as the "Kangaroo Judge". How appropriate that she is going of all coutnries to Australia, the only place in the world with kangaroos!
But I have digressed. What I should have said was that after the 3, John Tan, Izrizal and Shafi, the "kangaroo T shirt culprits" were released from Lee Kuan Yew's prison, the Queenstown, they were garlanded by a welcoming party and were seen singing songs and carried about as if they had just won first prize in the lottery! I understand they sang some kangaroo songs, filmed all of it and put in on Youtube. You can see their jubilation and merriment on the Internet.
It has been the same for each and every human rights activist which Lee Kuan Yew routinely sends to jail for violating his completely illegal laws; laws intended not to uphold the rule of law but to squarely break it.
You would recall that I myself was sent to jail for 3 months for pointing out the bias of judge Belinda Ang Saw Ean. When I was released from that prison, there was the usual welcoming party but since I had an American passport, I was whisked off to Singapore Immigration in a prison van. Otherwise I too would have had the opportunity for some merriment and party outside the prison.
Lee Kuan Yew's trying to intimidate guys like Seelan Palay is becoming a joke. No one cares for his politically motivated laws to stifle dissent. It is strange that his million dollar ministers do not see this. The dictator has for too long tried to abuse his powers to silence his people. Now they don't care anymore.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
Seelan Palay not only mocks Lee Kuan Yew, he flaunts it with glee!
Ladies and Gentlemen,
You have to read the article in the Singapore Democrat,http://www.yoursdp.org/, Dr. Chee Soon Juan's website, who is Lee Kuan Yew's enemy number one, "Seelan Palay under investigation for One Nation under Lee" of June 25, 2009.
What you will see is the beaming face of Seelan Palay, a Singapore human rights activist, grinning from ear to ear with delight, immediately after he attended a police station in the island republic, accused of allegedly insulting the Singapore dictator or something equally silly as expected of Lee Kuan Yew and his minions.
The film as you will see is not only completely innocuous, it is a very truthful account of the human rights violations and injustices perpetrated by the strongman against his people in the island.
As is routine practice there, Lee Kuan Yew's police are yet again going after a young man who is merely showing non violent peaceful dissent against his one party rule. This time, the dictator's police are interrogating human rights activist and film producer, Seelan Palay, for privately showing this film on May 17, 2008 at a hotel; a film which he personally produced and directed. The film was, to say the least, critical of the strongman and the way he runs the country. It can be freely watched on Internet youtube.
The article itself narrates verbatim the policeman's questions and Seelan's mocking, defiant answers. To almost all the questions put to him by the policeman, he not only refuses to answer, but appears to ask the police to go to Hell! The comedy of it all is not only his willingness to show his smiling face just after his police interrogation session, as if he had just knocked out the policeman in a boxing match; he goes on to mock and sneer him by publishing the questions and answers verbatim, telling the public that he cared two hoots for this police officer or for his master Lee Kuan Yew!
It is this sort of reaction from the people, who are expected to live in fear and obedience, that intolerably peeves Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's supreme strongman. In the past, Lee Kuan Yew's "digits" (this is what he has called Singapore citizens) whenever he arrests or questions them, froze with fear and immediately rolled over in submission. But now, quite often, when he abuses the law to silence them, the reaction appears the opposite. They no longer appear cowed and submissive, silenced and kicked into oblivion; instead they appear overjoyed at making Lee Kuan Yew look silly, by smiling and celebrating, as if they had just gone to a party!
The reaction to Lee's strong handedness appears changing . Instead of being ashamed, frightened and going away quietly, they are literally laughing at Lee Kuan Yew; telling him very clearly that he has a stupid set of laws (laws that deny fundamental human rights), and they have not the slightest of respect for it.
Dr. Chee Soon Juan, the human rights fighter, of the Singapore Democratic Party has been bankrupted and punished in more ways than one. Instead of quietly going away, he continues to expose the dictatorship for what it is, an intolerant dictatorship, by writing daily in his blog which is now read by almost every Singaporean who can read! And all Lee can do is to look silly and stand idly by. It seems, he has finally given up going after Dr. Chee Soon Juan.
Recently we had a number of young activists who were sent to jail because, believe it or not, they wore T Shirts emblazoned with a picture of a kangaroo in the vicinity of the High Court Singapore (the Kangaroo T Shirt Case). Lee Kuan Yew's compliant judge Judith Prakash appears to have been offended and she sent the 3 people to jail. I understand this woman is not taking any more cases and is in the process of leaving for Australia for good! Perhaps she can't take the heat anymore. She has now been known the world over as the "Kangaroo Judge". How appropriate that she is going of all coutnries to Australia, the only place in the world with kangaroos!
But I have digressed. What I should have said was that after the 3, John Tan, Izrizal and Shafi, the "kangaroo T shirt culprits" were released from Lee Kuan Yew's prison, the Queenstown, they were garlanded by a welcoming party and were seen singing songs and carried about as if they had just won first prize in the lottery! I understand they sang some kangaroo songs, filmed all of it and put in on Youtube. You can see their jubilation and merriment on the Internet.
It has been the same for each and every human rights activist which Lee Kuan Yew routinely sends to jail for violating his completely illegal laws; laws intended not to uphold the rule of law but to squarely break it.
You would recall that I myself was sent to jail for 3 months for pointing out the bias of judge Belinda Ang Saw Ean. When I was released from that prison, there was the usual welcoming party but since I had an American passport, I was whisked off to Singapore Immigration in a prison van. Otherwise I too would have had the opportunity for some merriment and party outside the prison.
Lee Kuan Yew's trying to intimidate guys like Seelan Palay is becoming a joke. No one cares for his politically motivated laws to stifle dissent. It is strange that his million dollar ministers do not see this. The dictator has for too long tried to abuse his powers to silence his people. Now they don't care anymore.
Gopalan Nairhi Uncle chia,
Pl ask Uncle Nair if he has paid the outstanding fine to Laws Society
and Attorney General.If not,has CPF Board deduct it from Nair's CPF account.
The amout is S$300,000 somethings.
2.Can i share with u guys how to conduct a fee collecting event
without being caught.
u can make under Engagement celebration ,XXXX Company (secret society alike)
birthday party.Then u should get the money in the form of Ang Bao.
Play smart.Like many did under Japanese Occupation and British Colony.
Money inside Malay green Ang Bao also will do.
Dunt so stupid put in the net that u charge money...
collecting $20 to watch a movie is not a private matter lah..
this is a public show.
dunt make the job of Judge difficult.Even the Judge wan to help u
also cannot.Tons of evidence.
Or u can provide inside toilets......
But i must say the Narrator Ms Chee is excellent.
Much convincing than LHL in GE speech...
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seriously wat he say is true... what rights does the police have to barge into a private event like this... being a police does not gives u the right to do everything. if so y dun every one be a police and we can go around barging into events and say "oh im acting under the law"
I mean seriously singapore is a democratic country therefore shouldn't we be treated equally? we citizens should have the rights to voice out too!
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Originally posted by Bi0ng:
seriously wat he say is true... what rights does the police have to barge into a private event like this... being a police does not gives u the right to do everything. if so y dun every one be a police and we can go around barging into events and say "oh im acting under the law"
I mean seriously singapore is a democratic country therefore shouldn't we be treated equally? we citizens should have the rights to voice out too!
So it's a private event like a seminar on bomb-making, police should not barge in and start checking? -
Is it not odd that while a report on 10 Year Ban on political films to be eased remains to take into effect, we already see the political films about LKY and the PAP openly being sold in public ?
This is another infamous example of the kind of double standards that are being practised in Singapore - designed by LKY to curtail the rights of Singaporeans to easy and unfettered access to public information.
This is the First World as only a deluded political leader can dream for Singapore.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
So it's a private event like a seminar on bomb-making, police should not barge in and start checking?
Why should the police barge in and start checking on bomb making classes that can help to fill the time of idle minds ?Those suicide bombers should infact attend these special classes with very special bomb making recipes that will surely make them drunk with happiness.
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SUCCESS STORIES LEE KUAN YEW
(A RTHK 2001 DOCUMENTARY)SYNOPSIS:
Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew attended the 35th National Day celebrations on 9 August 2000. He is contented as he watches Singapore grow day by day like any loving father watching his son grow up. Thirty-five years have passed by so quickly, the Singapore that he took over back then was weak and abandoned...
"Some countries were meant to be independent while some successfully fought for independence but Singapore's independence was forced upon it."
"The place where I live is nice, she is a small island. She is so small that you can hardly find it on the map but the whole world knows her name."
These are the lyrics from a Singaporean song "The Place Where I Live" which expresses Singaporeans' pride. As Mr Lee Kuan Yew looks out onto Malaysia from an elevated point on the Johor-Singapore Causeway, he analyses that the ill effects of not having the Malaysian island on Singapore and reminisces about the difficulties that Singapore faced 35 years ago...
MOVIE REVIEW:The Singapore education system has equipped me well with the country’s history. And it has made me proud how our little island has prospered from a little fishing village to the bustling city of possibilities today. And one person our countrymen have to thank is one of Lion City’s most important politicians, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew
While the above statement may sound like propaganda to some of my angst-ridden countrymen, I sincerely think that Singapore won’t be what it is today without Lee’s leadership.
Produced in 2001 by a Hong Kong channel, this 89-minute two-part documentary takes a look at how Lee brought Singapore to independence, and interestingly gives viewers a glimpse into his personal life.
If you had paid attention during your history classes, this documentary presents you with not much new information, except that you’ll be hearing interviews from the man himself. You’d be hearing about how Lee managed the merger with Malaya from 1963 to 1965, and then its separation which led to our country’s independence. The classic broadcast of Lee’s emotional announcement of the separation on 9 August 1965 is one of the high points in the disc. You’d also be hearing about the controversies between Lee and opposition leaders like Tang Liang Hong and Chee Soon Juan. For the sake of political correctness, we shall not further make any standpoints on this issue.
The more interesting moments of this documentary come during its last 20 minutes. Did you know that male civil servants were to keep short hair, and that anyone with unkempt hair was to be inspected under suspicion? Did you know that Lee hated the heat in the country and always kept his air conditioning at 22C?
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This system was setup by the cursed despot with a zombie wife, persecuting activists, losing massive amounts of money made in Singapore to foreigners through his gambling addicted daughter in law and cronies.... and that is why he is so cursed. His other grandchildren better watch out as his curses will fall on them like their half brother, the mongoloid kid.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
But Lee Kuan Yew is the dog of the british.
Have u anything against the British? Mind u, those who had been thru the british colonial era in sg prefer british rule than pap. sg under british, singaporeans are better taken care of. go hospital no need pay $. In general, british people, govt has more heart than any of the PAP members. They have good heart compared to lky.so mind u, please stop portraying such bad pic about british. if you hate lky does not mean u can drag brit into the pic. seems anything relating to lky, u just go hate without rationale. Absurd, ridiculous, so unobjective!
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thunderstrike party is a giant bully in the tiny island called singapore.
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We could be better off under the British rule than the PAP. Just look at Hong Kong. It is not only as prosperous as us but has more entrepreneurs than us. The people also enjoy greater freedom.
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Btw, what's the big deal? after all, the film "one nation under lee" contains truths also what. Ive watched it on youtube b4, the entire thing. I dont think its fair to slam someone just cuz he decides to reveal something, which you do not wish the public to see or know about. :D
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Originally posted by pearlie27:
We could be better off under the British rule than the PAP. Just look at Hong Kong. It is not only as prosperous as us but has more entrepreneurs than us. The people also enjoy greater freedom.
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Originally posted by OHSheet:
Btw, what's the big deal? after all, the film "one nation under lee" contains truths also what. Ive watched it on youtube b4, the entire thing. I dont think its fair to slam someone just cuz he decides to reveal something, which you do not wish the public to see or know about. :D
Typical despotic behavior.