Can we discuss the different ways of the Manufacturing of Consent that the government is imposing on us rather than harping on all its misdeeds?
Originally posted by Ah Chia:
"If nobody is afraid of me, I’m meaningless."
Politics of Fear
15 June 2009
TOC, Out of the Box
Singaporeans, in general, are a fearful people. They are afraid to express their views and do not have any opinion. They are afraid to take any risk or face the consequences. They prefer other people to decide for them.
For several decades, they are afraid that their vote in a general election is not secret. They are afraid that they will lose their job or will get into trouble with government officials, if they are found to have voted for a party other than the party in power.
They are afraid to be sued for defamation, if they were to make any statement that is unfavourable to people in power. They are quite naïve about their rights to free and honest expression.
Withdrawal
After many years of living in fear, they learn to withdraw from society. They do not wish to express any opinion publicly, but they will vent their anger in the coffee shops or in anonymous internet forums.
They learn not to get involved in any issue of public interest. They learned to take care only of their personal interest. If they are adversely affected, they will shout and expect other people to help them. But, they will not come forward to help other people.
Extreme views
Many people are unhappy with the high cost of living and the quality of life. They have to work hard and for long hours, just to earn enough to get by. If they fall sick or face with some financial hardship, life will become more difficult and unbearable.
Those who are adversely affected by misfortune will harbour a strong resentment about life in Singapore. But they are afraid to voice their grievances using the proper channel, or find that the people in power are not listening, or do not really care.
They use the anonymous internet forums to express their hatred in quite extreme ways. They find that as long as they are anonymous and cannot be traced, they can express their views safely, and why not exaggerate or dramatise them?
Stages of fear
Psychologists have identified the different stages of fear.
Fear is an emotional response to threats and danger. It is a basic survival mechanism occurring in response to a specific stimulus, such as pain or the threat of pain. It is possible to escape or avoid the specific threat.
Fear is different from anxiety, which typically occurs without any specific threat. Anxiety is the result of perceived threats that are uncontrollable or unavoidable.
There are various degrees of fear, from mild caution to extreme phobia or paranoia. I am quite worried that the fearful behaviour of some Singaporeans has reached the extreme form of paranoia.
Personal experiences
I wish to share some of my personal experiences.
I have expressed my views under my real personal name in my blog and in The Online Citizen. Many people have asked me if I have received any threats or warnings from the people in power, for these views, which may be uncomfortable to them. Did I get any call at midnight or any knock on the door?
I did not. I believe that the people in power have been rather fair in dealing with me and my views. Or, some cynics say, perhaps they are too busy dealing with the economic crisis?
But I did receive many “friendly advices” from relatives and friends, asking me “to be careful”. It seems that their views are worse, in creating fear, than the real threats from the people in power. Perhaps, the people in power approach these proxies to express their threats?
The worst kind is from people who made the “friendly advices” through my wife or children. If they are fearful, they should keep to themselves and not spread the unfounded fear.
Initially, many people came forward to volunteer their help to get signatures for me. After a few weeks, most of them dropped out and became unreachable. It seemed that they have received some advice or warnings, and decided not to get involved. Perhaps, they face the same kind of pressures and subtle threats?
Negative Traits
The years of fear and paranoia have led to the following negative traits of Singaporeans:
a) Not willing to express any opinion
b) Take care only of personal interest
c) Not willing to speak for other people
d) Not willing to stand for what is right and fair
e) Express extreme views, if protected by anonymity
f) Irresponsible behaviour
Change for the better
Is it possible to change behaviour for the better? It will take a long time, as the current negative traits have been ingrained after many years of fear and education.
A good starting point is to adopt the following values:
a) honesty;
b) fairness;
c) public interest;
d) positive;
e) courage.
If one is expressing an honest and fair view, one does not need to be afraid of being sued for defamation.
If one is exercising the right as a citizen to vote for the future, one does not need to worry about losing one’s job or being victimised by government officials. Anyone, the government officials do not have the time to go about victimising large numbers of ordinary people, which would be against their own values of decency.
It is best to express your views in a positive way. You can point what is right for society or your wishes for the values that guide our society, without having to point out that someone is wrong or dishonest.
I adopt a positive approach because it is only fair to the other person, rather than to avoid being sued.
One needs courage to be able to express an alternative view. But the values of honest, fairness and a positive attitude help to give the courage.
Conclusion
It is time for Singaporeans to get away from the politics of fear and be willing to step forward to express what is right for our country and our future. We can rebuild a nation to be proud of.
Tan Kin Lian
LKY is simply using the lessons in History to form his own form of Government. From Stalin to Machiavelli. He fine tuned the mechanism so that foreign powers will not intercede on his trampling of human rights and disregard for individual opinion. The Use of Fear to control the populace is nothing new.
I will be the first to pop the champagne when he kicks the bucket.
what fear of politics...?
singaporean conspiracy theorists trying to create
a storm in the teacup again??
These people who accused the govt of corruption/restricting our human rights , is 2 word:
ungrateful, greedy
always taking the good things of singapore for granted.
Go and migrate to your ideal country if you dun like here..
see got other any country want you or not, then you no need to complain any more.
Frankly I would prefer a master politicians like Lee Kuan Yew, Suharto, Mahathir Mohammed, to rule than a goody two shoes.
Goody two shoes usually are unable to rein in the anarchist.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:It is obviously not wrong for the govt to manipulate the media. In fact, it has to. They need to broadcast key points to the people and perhaps censor them from stuff the government deems extremely sensitive.
However, the point I am trying to state is, there is no "OBVIOUS" politics of fear nowadays in Singapore especially with LKY not that fit as before. Now the government realises that fear will not work with the modern-age Singaporean, and has thus turned to new ways of influencing people to their cause.
Whenever you see a battle plan of war in modern era, one of the key point of attack and control is the media station, once they got hold of it, half the battle had won. Control of media is part of a political science subject you will learn if you study politics. So dun tell me the PAP allow the media to spew all the bad nonsense about them, and still happily remain quiet. ?? The communist are best in controlling of media so are those under military rules.
Globalisation and the explosion of internet had in a way causes panic among govt all over the world, some are ready to censor it, some play a cat and mouse game, some warns their citizens of responsibility in their posting and some like Mr. Obama make full use of it to win votes. The line draw here is still very vague, our opposition supporters had critised so much about PAP, but where are their leaders?? You need to walk the talk, the PAP is keeping just a view of internet here because they knew very well that these few supporters are just guinea pigs who are no different from kopitiam stubborn uncles and aunties grumbling about govt. No damage done.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:I've finally received death threats in 3 PM in one forum by the same username and a harassment telling me 'we see you' and that I'm a Christian devil who has been stalking other people. LOL.
Except for minor annoyance I consider people who resort to making threats online are pretty useless people. Of course I've recorded each PM just in case. lol.
I've found too that some or many of my friends retract from me because of what I stand for and my views on the Singapore regime. Even I found that my own family would not support me and even went against me by saying personally hurting words and actions. Even the people who are from my church added to my wound. Of course insults coming from forum members are pretty common. Haha. Well life goes on I will carry on and will not be put down by these. And one thing I've learned in the hard way is that when you're under persecution and abuse speak up don't be silent. Silence will not make these people to stop hurting you. As long as I stand in the right and do not tell lies I don't see why I have to fear anyone or anything. Even if they made a law against speaking up I see myself free from any obligation to conform to any law that serves no justice.
where is gary?
Originally posted by mancha:Frankly I would prefer a master politicians like Lee Kuan Yew, Suharto, Mahathir Mohammed, to rule than a goody two shoes.
Goody two shoes usually are unable to rein in the anarchist.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
South East Asia is a new born independent region filled with newborn countries. It's natural that during its few decades of nationhood that these countries be ruled by some sort of dictatorship or strong man. It's only natural because usually the first few decades are the most politically unstable period in any country and this means that the leaders may need to act quick despite being thought of being harsh. Any newborn country will find the first few decades to be the most turbulent and may spell the country's 50-70 year future.
However South East Asia countries now face a whole new breed of population of young idealistic people who are better educated, informed than their parents and grandparents were. They now see themselves as part of the international community and demand their government to give what has been rightfully theirs that is their dignity as free people. They don't see their leaders as rulers but as their government which is expected more to govern for their sake and less to rule over them.
However the regimes in South East Asia have been enjoying relatively repressed political environment on the ground that stability is needed to enjoy economic growth. However these regimes have also become more corrupted and self serving in these few decades that they merely want to stay in power because losing it would mean losing the privileges both economic and political that they have been enjoying for decades. In other words these regimes are not willing to pass on staff and when they do they make sure the staff is only handed to those who would not bring about real change that would rip them off their privileges.
Where the hell is Gary??? time for lunch!!! had he said the wrong thing again...damn, they already warned him, aint they??
Originally posted by angel7030:
Where the hell is Gary??? time for lunch!!! had he said the wrong thing again...damn, they already warned him, aint they??
Obedience through Fear
Fear... of Failure
The Pussification of Sg has long begun.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
You don't get it do you? To speak on'es mind you do not need to seek the approval of anybody!!! People may not agree with you or they agree with you but you are entitiled to your own opinion. Sad Singaporean indeed. You're already made a slave to the people who betray their own people.
to speak one mind, you need to respect the listener, you can eat anything you like, but you can anyhow speak what you like, for words can kill not only others but you too. You better wash your mouth and keep a close watch over it, speak no evil, hear no evil.
Originally posted by angel7030:
Whenever you see a battle plan of war in modern era, one of the key point of attack and control is the media station, once they got hold of it, half the battle had won. Control of media is part of a political science subject you will learn if you study politics. So dun tell me the PAP allow the media to spew all the bad nonsense about them, and still happily remain quiet. ?? The communist are best in controlling of media so are those under military rules.
Globalisation and the explosion of internet had in a way causes panic among govt all over the world, some are ready to censor it, some play a cat and mouse game, some warns their citizens of responsibility in their posting and some like Mr. Obama make full use of it to win votes. The line draw here is still very vague, our opposition supporters had critised so much about PAP, but where are their leaders?? You need to walk the talk, the PAP is keeping just a view of internet here because they knew very well that these few supporters are just guinea pigs who are no different from kopitiam stubborn uncles and aunties grumbling about govt. No damage done.
For this, I fully agree.
Welcome to moi respected users list(provided u dun gossip).
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
South East Asia is a new born independent region filled with newborn countries. It's natural that during its few decades of nationhood that these countries be ruled by some sort of dictatorship or strong man. It's only natural because usually the first few decades are the most politically unstable period in any country and this means that the leaders may need to act quick despite being thought of being harsh. Any newborn country will find the first few decades to be the most turbulent and may spell the country's 50-70 year future.
However South East Asia countries now face a whole new breed of population of young idealistic people who are better educated, informed than their parents and grandparents were. They now see themselves as part of the international community and demand their government to give what has been rightfully theirs that is their dignity as free people. They don't see their leaders as rulers but as their government which is expected more to govern for their sake and less to rule over them.
The regimes in South East Asia have been enjoying relatively repressed political environment on the ground that stability is needed to enjoy economic growth. However these regimes have also become more corrupted and self serving in these few decades that they merely want to stay in power because losing it would mean losing the privileges both economic and political that they have been enjoying for decades. In other words these regimes are not willing to pass on staff and when they do they make sure the staff is only handed to those who would not bring about real change that would rip them off their privileges.
Any change to freer political climate and reform can only be brought by their own population and cannot be expected to come from the ruling regime as this will spell the end to their privileges. South East Asia people have been taken hostage by their own corrupt regimes. And when reform took place there's even tendency to go back to the old authoritarian regime since the elite find that they would benefit the most from such a system. Anyway democracy is not a well known quality in South East Asia and is not rooted to its largely timid population. Though the younger people now are clamoring for reform and change in these countries. They've had enough of the arrogance of their own elite.
I agree with this too.
Objection!!!, I disgree
You mean you want to happily express your unhappiness to attain happiness.
Believe me M&P, you will not be happy with any government.
Be contented with the best of the bad one.
i wonder.. all these people who rant and rage... yet are afraid?
have they been played so thoroughly by LKY and all they rant against?
i don't give a shit about LKY and the politicians... i do my work, i earn my wages, and i live without giving a shit about the politicians.. because ultimately, they're worthless parasites... and i don't just mean the MIW but people like the broken attention whore CSJ and the other idiots like him...
they do not matter in my life...
and the less we give a shit about them, the less they matter...
ah chia, andyboy, and all you wanna-be tinpot dictators and whatever.... go be afraid, go be stupid... your life to waste...
just.. kinda pitiful that you would be ranting over the verbal diarrhoea of an old man.. and try to rectify the situation by your own "more political than thou" verbal flatulence... but hey.. that's your life...
and i save my pity for retards...
Be contented with the best of the bad one.
Our country how to progress like that?
they do not matter in my life...
But you matter to them.
Originally posted by the Bear:i wonder.. all these people who rant and rage... yet are afraid?
have they been played so thoroughly by LKY and all they rant against?
i don't give a shit about LKY and the politicians... i do my work, i earn my wages, and i live without giving a shit about the politicians.. because ultimately, they're worthless parasites... and i don't just mean the MIW but people like the broken attention whore CSJ and the other idiots like him...
they do not matter in my life...
and the less we give a shit about them, the less they matter...
ah chia, andyboy, and all you wanna-be tinpot dictators and whatever.... go be afraid, go be stupid... your life to waste...
just.. kinda pitiful that you would be ranting over the verbal diarrhoea of an old man.. and try to rectify the situation by your own "more political than thou" verbal flatulence... but hey.. that's your life...
and i save my pity for retards...
Withdrawal
After many years of living in fear, they learn to withdraw from
society. They do not wish to express any opinion publicly, but they
will vent their anger in the coffee shops or in anonymous internet
forums.
They learn not to get involved in any issue of public interest. They learned to take care only of their personal interest. If they
are adversely affected, they will shout and expect other people to
help them. But, they will not come forward to help other
people.
Negative Traits
The years of fear and paranoia have led to the following negative
traits of Singaporeans:
a)
Not willing to express any opinion
b)
Take care only of personal interest
c)
Not willing to speak for other people
d) Not willing to stand for what is right and fair
e)
Express extreme views, if protected by anonymity
f) Irresponsible behaviour
http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/364914
I don't blame you.
It's not your fault that you developed the attitude.
It is the fault of PAP.
Don't worry.
I know quite clearly who is at fault, who is the enemy.
Originally posted by the Bear:
i wonder.. all these people who rant and rage... yet are afraid?
have they been played so thoroughly by LKY and all they rant against?
i don't give a shit about LKY and the politicians... i do my work, i earn my wages, and i live without giving a shit about the politicians.. because ultimately, they're worthless parasites... and i don't just mean the MIW but people like the broken attention whore CSJ and the other idiots like him...
they do not matter in my life...
Surprise, surprise - the Drama Queen is back in action after a long absence.
"they do not matter in my life... " - yet it affected you enough to be agitated to the point of calling CSJ an "attention whore" ?
If this is not hypocrisy in action, what else can be further from the truth of one who seeks the same attention as a Drama Queen with the shock effect intended in the false accusation towards others.
and the less we give a shit about them, the less they matter...
ah chia, andyboy, and all you wanna-be tinpot dictators and whatever.... go be afraid, go be stupid... your life to waste...
just.. kinda pitiful that you would be ranting over the verbal diarrhoea of an old man.. and try to rectify the situation by your own "more political than thou" verbal flatulence... but hey.. that's your life...
and i save my pity for retards...
In the first place, "if you don't give a shit about LKY and the politicians...." - why do you even bother to rant about anyone involve in politics in this Speaker's Corner ?
Are you simply too afraid to express anything serious about the big fish, and only go after the smaller frys in this Speaker's Corner ?
Or is it just to act out your role as a ‘Drama Queen’ ?
Originally posted by january:what fear of politics...?
singaporean conspiracy theorists trying to create
a storm in the teacup again??
These people who accused the govt of corruption/restricting our human rights , is 2 word:
ungrateful, greedy
always taking the good things of singapore for granted.
Go and migrate to your ideal country if you dun like here..
see got other any country want you or not, then you no need to complain any more.
What do you know about ingratitude and greed ?
Is this all about a storm in a teacup ?
How about a storm that had been brewing for 52 years and culminate in a loss of US$100 Billion amongst a list of destruction along the way ?
It is obvious that you are ignorant to the many leading lights in Singapore politics that have been destroyed for the personal ambition of ONE Man and his carpet begging cronies.
Similarly, you are oblivious to the lives of those generations that have been stunted by the skewed flip-flop policies that have been driven by the vanity of ONE Man's vision of his own supreme talent.
Only a loser who cannot present any cogent arguments will call for Singaporeans to migrate, when those who stay are the ones who contribute to the good life that you are enjoying without contributing your equal share.
Like those who have never known the better things in life, you only grab as much as you can at the Buffet Table prepared by the PAP - with just enough to keep your interest, you are too afraid to complain and also too afraid to miss the last piece.
Like the greed of the ONE Man and His idea of paying himself market rates, when he will not subject himself to the Rules of the Market - of transparency and accountability.
Originally posted by Atobe:
Surprise, surprise - the Drama Queen is back in action after a long absence.
"they do not matter in my life... " - yet it affected you enough to be agitated to the point of calling CSJ an "attention whore" ?
If this is not hypocrisy in action, what else can be further from the truth of one who seeks the same attention as a Drama Queen with the shock effect intended in the false accusation towards others.
In the first place, "if you don't give a shit about LKY and the politicians...." - why do you even bother to rant about anyone involve in politics in this Speaker's Corner ?
Are you simply too afraid to express anything serious about the big fish, and only go after the smaller frys in this Speaker's Corner ?
Or is it just to act out your role as a ‘Drama Queen’ ?
No Atobe.. he's just a civil servant.
Originally posted by pearlie27:An ignorant civil servant or a civil servant with a mission?
a servant is alway a servant, only the master can have the mission, the servant just follow.