Latest: At least 9 opposition MPs by next elections!
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so after 24 posts nobody is interested in the topic and nobody welcomes more opposition and NMPs in Parliament ?
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As we can see throughout the last few elections, the % of winning for PAP has not been increasing. I wonder will it continue to drop in the next election.
PAP are such arrogant toads that they refuse to take the dropping % as a guide to meet the needs of the people. To sissy lhl, 66.6% is strong mandate, ha ha ha haha, he just simply closed a blind eye to the continuous drop in their winning % throughout the years. How arrogant, self centred they are!
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so after 24 posts nobody is interested in the topic and nobody welcomes more opposition and NMPs in Parliament ?
All just a charade, how to be interested?
If they abolish the mother fucking GRC system, I will be interested.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
Lee Hsien Loong, take my advice, abolish the mother fucking GRC system.
If u are his father he will take your advice. -
Originally posted by kramnave:
so after 24 posts nobody is interested in the topic and nobody welcomes more opposition and NMPs in Parliament ?
Welcome more mollycuddled? Winners takes it all. How can a loser win? Wayang. Like a jester in the court, amusement for the king.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
All just a charade, how to be interested?
If they abolish the mother fucking GRC system, I will be interested.
Meaning additional opposition members and NMPs in parliament wouldn't add any value ? -
Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Welcome more mollycuddled? Winners takes it all. How can a loser win? Wayang. Like a jester in the court, amusement for the king.
I rather have any opposition member up there rather than whatever his name is, thatTanjong Pagar MP. -
Welcome more mollycuddled?
I don't like all these mollycuddled people getting into parliament through GRCs and walkovers.
It's a bullshit way of running a parliament.
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Originally posted by kramnave:
I rather have any opposition member up there rather than whatever his name is, thatTanjong Pagar MP.Still a jester, no better than a mollycuddle.
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By the way, how many MPs in our parliament have never in their life given a speech to the public during elections?
Just curious.
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ok i get it. Nobody is interested.
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On Proposed Changes to Electoral System
Yaw Shin Leong
I refer to the news article ‘Changes to Electoral System to encourage wider range of views in Parliament’ (CNA, 27th May 2009)
It is reported that PM Lee has announced proposed changes in Parliament to encourage a wider range of views in Parliament, including opposition and non-government views, specifically:
1) Each Parliament will have at least nine opposition members and nine Nominated Members of Parliament. The number of Non-Constituency MPs (NCMPs), who did not win a seat during an election but have the next highest percentage of votes, will increase from six to nine.
2) A proposal will be made to the Parliamentary Elections Act to set a cap of two NCMPs to come from any Group Representation Constituency (GRC). Parliament will also automatically have Nominated MPs.
3) There will be fewer six-member GRCs and a range of smaller GRCs in the next election, while the number of Single Member Constituencies will be increased to 12 from the current nine.
Reduction in the size of GRCs and the increased number of SMCs are welcomed changes. However to increase opposition representation via means of expanding the NCMP scheme is but a superficial proposal. In mandarin, this is likened to the analogy of '�汤���' (making changes without changing the essence).
It is apparent that the objective of the PAP is to ensure that whilst a wider range of views in Parliament can be assured, but the change is designed in the hope that PAP's parliamentary dominance remains as it is.
Therefore I repeat MP Low Thia Khiang’s call that it is certainly not sufficient for an unelected opposition candidate to become a NCMP to speak up and reflect public sentiment in Parliament.The reason is because the role of the opposition also includes the mandate of ensuring that democracy operates soundly.
Time and space is required to develop an effective check and balance mechanism in a truly democratic parliamentary system. Voters must reject PAP’s ‘similar medicine, different preparation’ approach to Singapore’s electoral system. In a period of political stability, the time can never better for Singaporeans to vote in more WP candidates into Parliament in the next General Elections. -
Chee Soon Juan will not be benefited from this change.
He cant run for election till 2011.
So,the first priority of Opposition is eligible to run for election.
(this include not throwing himself into the jail).
2 nd priority---read 1st.
3 rd---read 1st.
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Chee Soon Juan will not be benefited from this change.
He cant run for election till 2011.
So,the first priority of Opposition is eligible to run for election.
(this include not throwing himself into the jail).
2 nd priority---read 1st.
3 rd---read 1st.
Chee Soon Juan can't then u go run for election lor -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Chee Soon Juan can't then u go run for election lor -
lionnoisy's party manifesto.
"War with Australia"
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
Lee Hsien Loong, take my advice, abolish the mother fucking GRC system.
You are not alone, Chiam also wants GRC to be abolished.http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_382337.html
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Honestly, they should just raise the whip more often lar. I think some of the PAP MPs also have something contrary to party directions to say about policies too.
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Only in autocratic countries can the politics of a nation be "fixed" and the outcome pre-determined.
Is it not surprising that a small First World nation such as Singapore - can have her PM pre-determine that only 9 members from the Alternative Parties shall be Members in the future Parliament ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Only in autocratic countries can the politics of a nation be "fixed" and the outcome pre-determined.
Is it not surprising that a small First World nation such as Singapore - can have her PM pre-determine that only 9 members from the Alternative Parties shall be Members in the future Parliament ?
so that you cannot say that they didn't try..... : )
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Having more NMPs in the parliament is utterly lame !!
These goons have no voting rights in the passing of bills.
Don't take us the true-blooded Singaporeans as idiots.
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Is this the follow-up sequel to the farcical comedy already on show?
How does the regime actually reconcile the self-proclaimed principles of meritocracy in the presence of a Bumiputra policy that ensures the need for a minority to be elected, even if it were to come at the expense of ability?
Moreover, if it needs any reminder, independent Singapore's first elected opposition MP hails from an ethnic minority race. Hence, why the need to run fraudulent schemes under the guise of a GRC to advance the interests of minorities when historical evidence has already attested to the fact that minorities can - and should - succeed if he had the ability?
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Is our dear PM is taking actions now so that he can give excuses for losing a GRC in the next election in case it happens?
Imagine:
GE2011
PAP takes in less seats, but better than expected
Straits Times
12 Sep 2011
The results of the GE show that the political change initiated by the PAP to include more opposition has seen some form of success. Back in 2009, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong proposed that each Parliament will have at least nine opposition members and nine Nominated Members of Parliament (NMPs), so that there will be at least 18 Members of Parliament (MPs) who are not from the ruling party. In addition, he proposed that there will be fewer six-member GRCs and a range of smaller GRCs in the next election, while the number of Single Member Constituencies will be increased to 12 from 9.Even though the political situation is more favourable to the opposition as compared to the previous few General Elections, the opposition has put up a rather disappointing performance by winning only 6 of the seats.
"This shows that the PAP still has the highest number of talents of all political parties in Singapore. The opposition parties are still not up to mark," proclaimed newly elected MP Dr *** *****
Let someone else continue liao
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I think you've hit the nail on the head, eagle. After all they were so arrogant to dub the opposition team that contested in the PM's GRC as "suicide team", snickering that they would lose by such a significant margin that they will forfeit their deposit. The bleedy PM is lucky he is still around to collect his $m pay cheque!
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If PM LHL is sincere about having true representative voice in Parliament that allow ordinary Singaporean views to be effectively voiced and heard - it is not good enough to tweak the election system to allow only 9 Members from the Alternative Political Parties and 9 NMPs from Singapore Society to enter Parliament.
The entire Singapore political format crafted by LKY has to be revamped - as it was designed to perpetuate the interests of only the PAP.
Revisions should be made to lift restrictions and legislations passed to prevent Singaporeans giving any large financial contributions to political parties.
The PAP Government should reassess their "political pettiness" in taking punitive administrative reprisal actions against businesses and private individuals making any large financial contribution to the other Political Parties and not to the PAP.
The PAP Government should show more political maturity and relax on their paranoia in placing strict controls on the print and broadcast medias giving any positive publicity to Alternative Political Parties.
It was sheer arrogance for LKY to believe that the Government is not answerable to newspapers and will not be subjected to the scrutiny of the Press, when the press is used by LKY's Government to be the PAP watchdog over Singaporeans.
The PAP leadership should separate party politics from the Government body, and depoliticize the Civil Service, the Police Force, and the SAF.
The PAP should allow professionals to run these critical National Institutions as non-political supporting bodies to any incoming Government formed by any Political Party.
If MM LKY had built Singapore to what it is today, PM LHL should leave a longer lasting political stability by dismantling the deep penetration of PAP Political Appointees holding executive powers in the various Government-linked Companies - that will pose conflicts of interests to the Government formed by any Political Party other then the PAP.
If PM LHL is sincere about changing the Rules of Politics in Singapore, he should go deeper and make the necessary change to inject strength and fresh quality into the present status quo, where the present air is already stale from 52 years of monotonous rule by the PAP that had purposefully stifled all other voices.
- "If we say that we believe in democracy, if we say that the fabric of a democratic society is one which allows for the free play of idea...then, in the name of all the gods, give that free play a chance to work within the constitutional framework." - Opposition leader Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore Legislative Assembly, Oct 4, 1956
- Let us get down to fundamentals. Is
this an open, or is this a closed society? Is it a society where men can
preach ideas - novel, unorthodox, heresies, to established churches and
established governments - where there is a constant contest for men's
hearts and minds on the basis of what is right, of what is just, of what
is in the national interests, or is it a closed society where the mass
media - the newspapers, the journals, publications, TV, radio - either
bound by sound or by sight, or both sound and sight, men's minds are fed
with a constant drone of sycophantic support for a particular orthodox
political philosophy? I am talking of the principle of the open society,
the open debate, ideas, not intimidation, persuasion not coercion..."
- Lee Kuan Yew, Before Singapore's independence, Malaysian Parliamentary
Debates, Dec 18, 1964
- "If we say that we believe in democracy, if we say that the fabric of a democratic society is one which allows for the free play of idea...then, in the name of all the gods, give that free play a chance to work within the constitutional framework." - Opposition leader Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore Legislative Assembly, Oct 4, 1956