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If I were in authority in Singapore indefinitely without having to ask those who are governed whether they like what is being done, then I would not have the slightest doubt that I could govern much more effectively in their interests.”
- Lee Kuan Yew, 1962
“What are our priorities? First, the welfare, the survival of the people. Then, democratic norms and processes which from time to time we have to suspend.”
- Lee Kuan Yew, 1986 National Day Rally
“Now if democracy will not work for the Russians, a white Christian people, can we assume that it will naturally work with Asians?”
- Lee Kuan Yew, Asahai Shimbun symposium, May 9, 1991
“I am often accused ...........
answer:HEY!!IVE SEEN THIS BEFORE IN INFORMERCIALS WHERE THEY TELL U WHAT THEIR SPECIAL MOP CAN DO THIS N CAN DO THAT!!!N THEY TRY COMPARE OTHER BRANDS OF MOPS EVEN!!!AND GOT AUDIENCE N SPECTATORS TOO!
ALL THIS FOR ONLY $59.99 ONLY!!!
I CAN GET SAME FOR $5...INCLUDES PAIL ALSO!
WHO WANTS TO BUY A COMPLICATED $59.99 MOP???
Originally posted by Socialist:Look at US and Australia ( though Europe may be better) , their people are indisciplined, cry rights for every small thing to exploit, line up for social security money, to much power given to private corporations which in turn jack up prices leading to inflation. Their politicians argue in court to "fix" each other up and end up doing nothing. Decisions take a long time and their country budgets are on deficiets. They are on debt for billions and trillions
LKY was right
If I were in authority in Singapore indefinitely without having to ask those who are governed whether they like what is being done, then I would not have the slightest doubt that I could govern much more effectively in their interests.”
- Lee Kuan Yew, 1962“What are our priorities? First, the welfare, the survival of the people. Then, democratic norms and processes which from time to time we have to suspend.”
- Lee Kuan Yew, 1986 National Day Rally“Now if democracy will not work for the Russians, a white Christian people, can we assume that it will naturally work with Asians?”
- Lee Kuan Yew, Asahai Shimbun symposium, May 9, 1991
“I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yes, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn’t be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn’t be here, we would not have made economic progress, if we had not intervened on very personal matters – who your neighbour is, how you live, the noise you make, how you spit, or what language you use. We decide what is right. Never mind what the people think.”
- Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, Straits Times, 20 April 1987
The ironic thing here TS, is your name. The thing you posted goes against what your name means. I think you should change names.
Socialism: A theory or system of social organization advocating placing the ownership and control of capital, land, and means of production in the community as a whole.
Socialist: a political advocate of socialism
To push aside democratic values for economic gains does not benefit the society. It only benefits the elite group of people who controls the political and economic policies.
What we have in Singapore is a political regime that is so full of itself that it no longer apologises for the mistakes they make. While mistakes are important so we could learn from them, leadership mistakes are leadership failures. Retaining politicians who make mistakes and are unwilling to learn from them will just set us all up for more mistakes.
LKY is delusional when he says that he could decide our best interests. Whatever is going on in his fucked up brain might not be what we want for Singapore. So what we make economic gains? Are his policies are so timeless that it transcends future events and still ensure economic gains?
Originally posted by angel7030:
Yo, please lah, keep it to yourself, alots of peoples here are medications, and most are anti LKy, so watch your mouth ya, u got to know the cost of medicines is on the rise.
bar girl angel7030 aka longinchjohn. people don't agree with lky means that people are on medication. YOu are the only one on medication here okie, cause u have to service the male clients every night and is required you go for check up in case u contract any sexual disease.
you love treating people like dirt so don't expect people to respect you.
LKY is outdated. With the rate he is going, it is best he steps down. If he continues he is not contributing positively to the nation . he is senile.
Originally posted by Socialist:u complain so much about HOUSING. HOUSING HAS NEVER BEEN CHEAP in countries like US and Australia too.
People home in into their best price exploiting market prices
are you sure?
wait. are you a clone?
if not how do you know i been complaing so much about housing?? so whose clone are you?
Lion Noisy?
TS is correct, small countries can't afford democracy; even big countries like Russia, China, North Korea can't afford democracy, all the countries in the world should just devolve into Communism and install a leader like Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Kim or Pol Pot. Leadership succession will be by lineage (father to son).
Is TS gullible or delusional or was he born yesterday?
Originally posted by youyayu:are you sure?
wait. are you a clone?
if not how do you know i beem complaing so much about housing?? so whose clone are you?
Lion Noisy?
PAP mole
to fanta;
u are right!!!!thats a great excuse for mistakes at his age!n so if he loses 100billiin
I can't help but laugh at this topic, which TS has so bravely started. Doesn't he know that the general sympathy towards our Great Leader and his cronies aren't too friendly over the World Wide Web? By starting this kinda topic is akin to flying into a web and be devoured by thousands...millions of spiders.
We have to agree that our Great Leader's stance on autocratic is correct in the past. Singapore wasn't stable and we were under constant threats. When faced with so much uncertainties, it was certainly right of the Great Leader to control us with an iron fist. However, times have changed. As rightly pointed out by some here, the evolution of the economy, coupled with technology has changed the whole ball game. Industrialisation is no longer the buzzword. People have learned more and seen more. We are no longer willing to be controlled like a bird. Even China is slowly opening up.
Given Singapore's limited resources, our Great Leader has rightly pointed out that our citizens are the greatest assets. However, what has been instilled into our most precious asset? We have been trained to obey every commands without any doubts. Hence, we can only bow to the FTs. Hence, the needs to import FTs. This is because Singaporeans can't think for themselves. We need people to teach us how to do things. Those we really can think for themselves were branded as "Quitters" and publicly shamed in our media. Is this even right? We don't belong to the government you know. However, if you like to be treated like an animal, who are we to stop you?
People do complain. This is the case with the whole world. However, have you stopped for a moment to really think why do people complain? Obviously, some things are wrong and we seek to improve them. However, the case nowadays is just to sweep everything under their royal carpet and blame the peasants instead. Is this even right? Who doesn't err? Even the sages can be wrong. However, the difference between a man and a coward is that the former dares to face up to his wrongs and correct them. To blame others for your mistakes is akin to a wussy.
P.s. Diaspora shouldn't be something you should use here unless you wanna invoke the ISD to invite you for coffee. We are a multi-racial society. Even more so now with all the FTs. If you are ignorant, please study harder. If you choose to deceive yourself, then don't be afraid to be shamed.
singapore life..........no future,no money,no fully paid housing,no porn...... .....only got problem after problem
Originally posted by Midlusionz:LOL @ this man.
Why not post this in some forum which everyone from different parts of the world chat in and tell mi wat is the result.
yeah, if he posts this on websites in taiwan, europe, US and so on. he will be made popular overnight. ha ha ha
Originally posted by MINIGUN2000:singapore life..........no future,no money,no fully paid housing,no porn...... .....only got problem after problem
Singapore life = Work till you DIE
Originally posted by youyayu:Singapore life = Work till you DIE
ya lor, good eg is MM - he will work until he dies. But he will die an elite.
I am trying to make u understand, western liberal democracy was found on christian principles. Christianity or similar religions were the main foundation in that countries. So it took on a civilised and stable form up till today, In ethnic singapore, we have different religions, ethnic groups with their own set of separate beliefs. We cannot establish the style of democracy seen in western countries. Simply not possible. trying to do so will have a negative effect as democracy itself will bring about chaos and disorder with one set of beliefs ( religion, ideology or racial) trying to establish and overshadow itself over the other..
Originally posted by Socialist:I am trying to make u understand, western liberal democracy was found on christian principles. Christianity or similar religions were the main foundation in that countries. So it took on a civilised and stable form up till today, In ethnic singapore, we have different religions, ethnic groups with their own set of separate beliefs. We cannot establish the style of democracy seen in western countries. Simply not possible. trying to do so will have a negative effect as democracy itself will bring about chaos and disorder with one set of beliefs ( religion, ideology or racial) trying to establish and overshadow itself over the other..
yes. and we think your better use the Shut the Hell up principles. and go ahead and lick LKY balls.
Thank you.
Originally posted by MINIGUN2000:singapore life..........no future,no money,no fully paid housing,no porn...... .....only got problem after problem
what is that u dont have, stop whining.
ha ha ha, crap
if it is true of what he said we will see constant chaos in Europe, America. But we don't. Funny. What sort of mentality is that? Narrow minded.
Now Jesus related to democracy.
Originally posted by deepak.c:
Now Jesus related to democracy.
I thought democracy started in Rome??
Originally posted by Socialist:I am trying to make u understand, western liberal democracy was found on christian principles. Christianity or similar religions were the main foundation in that countries. So it took on a civilised and stable form up till today, In ethnic singapore, we have different religions, ethnic groups with their own set of separate beliefs. We cannot establish the style of democracy seen in western countries. Simply not possible. trying to do so will have a negative effect as democracy itself will bring about chaos and disorder with one set of beliefs ( religion, ideology or racial) trying to establish and overshadow itself over the other..
Originally posted by Socialist:I am trying to make u understand, western liberal democracy was found on christian principles. Christianity or similar religions were the main foundation in that countries. So it took on a civilised and stable form up till today, In ethnic singapore, we have different religions, ethnic groups with their own set of separate beliefs. We cannot establish the style of democracy seen in western countries. Simply not possible. trying to do so will have a negative effect as democracy itself will bring about chaos and disorder with one set of beliefs ( religion, ideology or racial) trying to establish and overshadow itself over the other..
It may be an obscure fact that only a couple of billion people know about, but one of these aforementioned western democracies makes a really, I mean really, big deal about separation of church and state. Care to guess which one it is? Here's a hint - it's about four and a half times as old as Singapore.
Why don't you stop and cut your losses? It's starting to get a bit embarrassing having to educate you in public like this.
Originally posted by Chew Bakar:I thought democracy started in Rome??
Originally posted by Chew Bakar:I thought democracy started in Rome??
Apparently it is not, based on the theory of democracy by "Socialist".
"I am trying to make u understand, western liberal democracy was found on christian principles. Christianity or similar religions were the main foundation in that countries. So it took on a civilised and stable form up till today, In ethnic singapore, we have different religions, ethnic groups with their own set of separate beliefs. We cannot establish the style of democracy seen in western countries. Simply not possible. trying to do so will have a negative effect as democracy itself will bring about chaos and disorder with one set of beliefs ( religion, ideology or racial) trying to establish and overshadow itself over the other.."