These are the true Patriots of Singapore.
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Not all Singaporean political leaders are as money minded, autocratic, uninspiring as our current PAP leaders.
There were Singapore leaders that fought for the weak, for the poor, were not western dogs and where the common folk can feel proud and be inspired.
Here they are:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uUVMxD--YA
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in many people's minds as long as you are not for PAP you are not patriotic. These people fail to see that PAP is not equal to patriotism.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
in many people's minds as long as you are not for PAP you are not patriotic. These people fail to see that PAP is not equal to patriotism.
In many people's minds as long as you are not for opposition, you are for PAP. These people fail to see that not supporting the opposition is not equal to supporting PAP.
The mentality of many people
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Originally posted by Chris88110:
In many people's minds as long as you are not for opposition, you are for PAP. These people fail to see that not supporting the opposition is not equal to supporting PAP.
The mentality of many people
*thumbs up*
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
in many people's minds as long as you are not for PAP you are not patriotic. These people fail to see that PAP is not equal to patriotism.
The opposite seems to hold true for this forum, near as i could see.
I've never seen anyone made the argument that if we're not for PAP, we're not patriotic(brain washed, influenced by propaganda). But rather, we're only patriotic if we're anti PAP.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
in many people's minds as long as you are not for PAP you are not patriotic. These people fail to see that PAP is not equal to patriotism.
Problem is some people equate PAP to Singapore and with every bad press Singapore gets, they seem happy for they equate that to PAP's doing. That is hardly patriotism.
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Originally posted by kramnave:
Problem is some people equate PAP to Singapore and with every bad press Singapore gets, they seem happy for they equate that to PAP's doing. That is hardly patriotism.
Ah ok root problem here is assumptions ok? Bottomline, don't assume anything unless you want to make an ass out of yourseld. Ok, case closed
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CSJ patriotic? Please don't make me laugh.
Our present prime minister patriotic? Still trying to make me laugh.
Present alternative parties patriotic? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
CSJ patriotic? Please don't make me laugh.
Our present prime minister patriotic? Still trying to make me laugh.
Present alternative parties patriotic? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Man, that's kinda the sad part. -
CSJ patriotic? Please don't make me laugh.
Our present prime minister patriotic? Still trying to make me laugh.
Present alternative parties patriotic? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Man, that's kinda the sad part.
If a country is governed with repression, the people are depressed and crafty.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
If a country is governed with repression, the people are depressed and crafty.
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http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/
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I thought the complaints is that singapore is a nanny state that stifles creativity?
Now change to crafty?
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Originally posted by Chris88110:
In many people's minds as long as you are not for opposition, you are for PAP. These people fail to see that not supporting the opposition is not equal to supporting PAP.
The mentality of many people
well said!
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singapore is a nanny state
What nanny?
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
What nanny?
Nanny is the one who give u her milk to drink lor...u dunno meh. -
Nanny is the one who give u her milk to drink lor.
So who is the Singapore nanny?
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
Not all Singaporean political leaders are as money minded, autocratic, uninspiring as our current PAP leaders.
There is only 2 opposition political leaders in Singapore, one is very sick, the other is very quiet and like to visit funneral, the rest are PAP political leaders, in saying not all singaporean political leaders are money minded n autocratic...Uncle, may i know who and where they are.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
So who is the Singapore nanny?
go ask your mother lah. My nanny was Mrs Shirley, when young, my Dad ask her to take care and feed me, now, i take her as my Godmother. -
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
so are you depressed and crafty?
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Sigh.. People of the past are more daring..
Looking at the late generation: though we are more educated than our ancestor, many people lacks the courage to step out of our comfort zone to serve Singapore.
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Sigh.. People of the past are more daring..
Looking at the late generation: though we are more educated than our ancestor, many people lacks the courage to step out of our comfort zone to serve Singapore.
Final Message to the Singaporean Youths
In a rare public interview in 1997 Radio Corporation of Singapore, Dr Toh passionately bemoaned the lack of idealism and creativity among the young and its implications for the future of Singapore. He said:
“I would say the generation of the ‘50s and ‘60s took the plunge into politics without ever calculating the costs of the risk and the benefits to be gained. They were driven by ideology. Today’s generation has no culture and averse to taking political risk. Really, an interest in politics is very necessary for the future. But I cannot blame the present generations, because they see the heavy-handed response by the government to dissenting views, even though they know that these matters involve their daily lives.
So the result is that we have produced a younger generation who are meek and therefore very calculating. They are less independent-thinking and lack in initiative. It does not bode well for the emergence of future leaders in politics and business. Robots and computers can be programmed or if you like, can be trained. But the trouble, of course, is that computers lack soul and what we need in Singapore is soul. Because it is soul that makes society.”http://singaporegovt.blogspot.com/2006/02/part-ii-true-found
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Originally posted by skythewood:
I thought the complaints is that singapore is a nanny state that stifles creativity?
Now change to crafty?
I find it so ironical that on the one hand we complain about Singapore being a "nanny state" and on the other hand, we are demanding for more government hand-outs (in the form of medical subsidies, cheaper HDB, lower transport fare). -
Originally posted by Hbbo:
I find it so ironical that on the one hand we complain about Singapore being a "nanny state" and on the other hand, we are demanding for more government hand-outs (in the form of medical subsidies, cheaper HDB, lower transport fare).
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The moon can vouch for me!
Nice and sombre video clip. But I burst into laughter towards the end when CSJ appears. Patriot or traitor? I won't be surprise if the video clip is compiled by himself.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Depends on your meaning of hand-outs, sometimes the citizens just demand some cessation of bloody government imposed red-tape.My definition of hand-outs is spelt out clearly in my earlier posts. Please read the words between the blankets (......)