http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_366356.html
An interesting article that talks about Singapore after MM Lee, whether if SG will survive. Something interesting that I saw was about the issue of Shared Identity, values and common aspirations.
Quoted from the Straits Times online article...
'No Singaporean nor foreigner questions today that we have a shared identity, common values and aspirations. This is no small achievement,' he added. --
Mr Ho Kwon Ping
What is your understanding of this shared identity, common values, and aspirations?
Do we really have such a shared identity, values and aspirations?
Do we really have such a shared identity, values and aspirations?
I think to a certain common Singaporean mentality shaped under PAP rule and daily propaganda, and brainwashing in schools, that is true:
In a rare public interview in 1997 Radio
Corporation of Singapore, Dr Toh passionately bemoaned the lack of
idealism and creativity among the young and its implications for the
future of Singapore. He said:
“I would say the generation of the ‘50s and ‘60s took the plunge into politics without ever calculating the costs of the risk and the benefits to be gained. They were driven by ideology. Today’s generation has no culture and averse to taking political risk. Really, an interest in politics is very necessary for the future. But I cannot blame the present generations, because they see the heavy-handed response by the government to dissenting views, even though they know that these matters involve their daily lives.
So the result is that we have produced a younger generation who are meek and therefore very calculating. They are less independent-thinking and lack in initiative. It does not bode well for the emergence of future leaders in politics and business. Robots and computers can be programmed or if you like, can be trained. But the trouble, of course, is that computers lack soul and what we need in Singapore is soul. Because it is soul that makes society.”
yea man...
what shared identity, values and common values?
in sg, it has become every man for himself.
Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:yea man...
what shared identity, values and common values?
in sg, it has become every man for himself.
I'm begining to think you don't go to other countries
I'm begining to think you don't go to other countries
So what are the common values?
Originally posted by Ah Chia:I'm begining to think you don't go to other countries
So what are the common values?
Show me a country that doesn't have every man for himself?
So what are the common values?
Originally posted by Ah Chia:So what are the common values?
Rephrase your question and give me more details because i have no idea what the hell you're trying to ask.
What are the common values that Singaoreans share?
'No Singaporean nor foreigner questions today that we have a shared identity, common values and aspirations.
What exactly are the values that most Singaporeans have?
Originally posted by Ah Chia:What are the common values that Singaoreans share?
'No Singaporean nor foreigner questions today that we have a shared identity, common values and aspirations.
What exactly are the values that most Singaporeans have?
What the hell are you asking me for?
Go twist the words of someone else.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:What the hell are you asking me for?
Go twist the words of someone else.
i think he wants you to answer for some reason. I can also see that he didn't attempt to answer the question himself. I think he's weird.
Utter crap, to bleat like sheep and herded is the ultimate insult. to each his own - unless people who live in singapore are utterly lost, are they?
What the hell are you asking me for?
I thought that you knew what the common values were since you made below statement:
I'm begining to think you don't go to other countries
I can also see that he didn't attempt to answer the question himself.
See my first post in this thread.
Originally posted by Ah Chia:What the hell are you asking me for?
I thought that you knew what the common values were since you made below statement:
I can also see that he didn't attempt to answer the question himself.
See my first post in this thread.
wooo... that's very informative. I also see some cut and paste stuff. except i can't find what is your definition of common value
Originally posted by Ah Chia:What the hell are you asking me for?
I thought that you knew what the common values were since you made below statement:
I can also see that he didn't attempt to answer the question himself.
See my first post in this thread.
I have already indicated which portion of the post i was making that comment on.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
I'm begining to think you don't go to other countries
i agree with you.
his statement
yea man...
what shared identity, values and common values?
in sg, it has become every man for himself.
seems to implies that it is only in sg that is everyone for himself.
it should be noted that if he had travelled overseas, he will see that other country is like that.
Now i wonder if someone will interpret your statement wrongly.
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
I have already indicated which portion of the post i was making that comment on.
yup, so in other words, "I can also see that he didn't attempt to answer the question himself"
holds true.
'No Singaporean nor foreigner questions today that we have a shared identity, common values and aspirations. This is no small achievement,' he added. --
Mr Ho Kwon Ping
Anyone who knows what Mr Ho is talking about can make a post here.
Originally posted by skythewood:i think he wants you to answer for some reason. I can also see that he didn't attempt to answer the question himself. I think he's weird.
I don't even want to bother giving a proper response. He's just going to twist my words to mean something else anyway.
Such men pervert democracy and free speech far more effectively than LKY can ever manage.
He's just going to twist my words to mean something else anyway.
You are making false allegations against me Stevenson101.
Why suddenly such peverse behaviour from you Stevenson101?
Such men pervert democracy and free speech far more effectively than LKY can ever manage.
That is crap lah, people where got scared of me sue them?
Rubbish.
PAP share with oppositions?
wow............the world is changing fast
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
I don't even want to bother giving a proper response. He's just going to twist my words to mean something else anyway.Such men pervert democracy and free speech far more effectively than LKY can ever manage.
true, best not to reply to him at all.
Originally posted by Ah Chia:He's just going to twist my words to mean something else anyway.
You are making false allegations against me Stevenson101.
Why suddenly such peverse behaviour from you Stevenson101?
Such men pervert democracy and free speech far more effectively than LKY can ever manage.
That is crap lah, people where got scared of me sue them?
Rubbish.
What do you expect from running dogs?
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
I don't even want to bother giving a proper response. He's just going to twist my words to mean something else anyway.Such men pervert democracy and free speech far more effectively than LKY can ever manage.
some guy called you a running dog... why?
Originally posted by skythewood:some guy called you a running dog... why?
Why should i care about the opinion of someone who quotes himself as an expert source?