Originally posted by xtreyier:Rather than to rub each other the wrong way, let's start afresh and try to foster better understanding, even though yet again you cast a slur against Singaporeans, implying they are not as dependable than foreign workers.
Sure, we are thankful they clean up our mess and build beautiful structures PAID by us. But at what social cost?
Have you considered that if there were no foriegners around, companies would have to pay more in order to profit, or at least share their profits around by paying more in order to survive?
I am not sure if i am dealing with a talent or not, so i have to write simply. If you are an educated talent, you would know what kind of economic theories written by others I mean.
Just consider a waitress' pay on Christmas Island and ours. It is twice and even 3 times the amount one gets here. Why? Because the islanders were protected. But that island in truth is only sustainable for limited growth, and not the kind of growth we singaporeans are expecting for us and our next generations. Thus the trade off - to get cheap labour for bosses to profit and in the meantime they will need higher skilled staff earning more filled by our locals.
The only grouse comes from those who may not be as educated, or skillful as others, or older and subsequently lagged behind to face the foreigner hordes.
Worse still, and many singaporeans found out, there are many employers who took advantage of this economic system to fill even well paid jobs with younger and cheaper foreign workers/talents.
Isn't the exploitation of cheap labour immoral? You are the boss, so you are in a better position to answer that. I only know that it would be immoral if our own valued citizens starve, in a globalised world that you bosses dictate and demand to societies.
Let it not be said we are racists, or undependable, unreliable, or whatnots. Spend a bit more time here before you criticise next and be not selectively blind.
He claims he is "european" only.. you suddenly change to such a nice tone ah ?
Sorry to say this.. but you sure seem like a ECS " European cock sucker" eh ?
Ofcors he come to Singapore exploit our open leg policy and the low wages of foreign labours.. after he lined his big fat stomach already he still goes back to his country where there's strict immigration and foreign worker policy that protects his children's interests and jobs in the future.
They not happy .. they go on strike. We not happy.. gahmen tell us go jia sai.
So best he don't come here tell us who we should appreciate ok ? Good.
Originally posted by jojobeach:He claims he is "european" only.. you suddenly change to such a nice tone ah ?
Sorry to say this.. but you sure seem like a ECS " European cock sucker" eh ?
Ofcors he come to Singapore exploit our open leg policy and the low wages of foreign labours.. after he lined his big fat stomach already he still goes back to his country where there's strict immigration and foreign worker policy that protects his children's interests and jobs in the future.
Sorry to disappoint you and your often flawed theories, I am much more sober now than last night.
I am much more gracious, or least i always attempt to do so in the pursuit of rationality. Cold, clinical and devoid of emotions except for facts or perceptions of facts is a better way to foster understanding thru debate, regardless of who i deal with, be him a immortal or a african goatherd. This is my principle, flawed as I am.
But it is your choice to be belligerant, vicious, spiteful and uncouth. It only shows your upbringing.
Originally posted by xtreyier:Sorry to disappoint you and your often flawed theories, I am much more sober now than last night.
I am much more gracious, or least i always attempt to do so in the pursuit of rationality. Cold, clinical and devoid of emotions except for facts or perceptions of facts is a better way to foster understanding thru debate, regardless of who i deal with, be him a immortal or a african goatherd. This is my principle, flawed as I am.
But it is your choice to be belligerant, vicious, spiteful and uncouth. It only shows your upbringing.
Well thank you for your understanding European cock sucker.
Nowadays the term Singaporean is extremely broad based, so long as you come into Singapore, you are considered Singaporean. That's why when government said they created jobs for Singaporeans, apart from the locally born Singaporeans they meant the Filipinos, PRCs, Indonesian and Indians too.
Originally posted by Dy1 brt:I am not condemning anybody, you were the ones who's condemning foreign people, and I think its wrong to say that. I am not talking about filipinos only, I am talking about indians, bangladesh, indonasians, myanmars, chinese etc... They are more dependable workers. Just be thankfull they clean up your mess and makes beautifull structures for you. I am a european guy by the way, I am not filipino.
FYI, in the 60s to mid 90s, the cleaners on the streets were mainly Singaporeans. It was still back then. Fast forward to today, which right minded Singaporean would want to do the job for the pay that barely suffice in a state of living that is so expensive. So in comes the foreigners to do the job, the money they make will make them richer in their own countries. In the end of the day, profit trumps over everything else, even our own citizens.
How much money do you think the cleaners and construction workers in the US, Canada or Australia make? Sure as hell they make more than what their counterparts make over here. Because they have minimum wage and we don't.
Why do you come here to do business? Cannot compete in Europe? We have enough Euro-trash around here, so we dont need anymore sheep-shagging, morals depleted Europeans to come here and fleece us dry.
This is how you wanna talk, Jojo bitch is the original cock sucker, why you hate the foreigner so much? What have they done to you?
As the saying goes, people who talks bad things about another person is much worst than that person...
I'm done with this, I'm out bye bye jojo bitch! loser!!!
Man!x! singapore ask us to come here... blame your government, not us! Asshole...
Bye bye...
And there you have one pissed off guy from....prolly Sabah.
Originally posted by Man!x:FYI, in the 60s to mid 90s, the cleaners on the streets were mainly Singaporeans. It was still back then. Fast forward to today, which right minded Singaporean would want to do the job for the pay that barely suffice in a state of living that is so expensive. So in comes the foreigners to do the job, the money they make will make them richer in their own countries. In the end of the day, profit trumps over everything else, even our own citizens.
How much money do you think the cleaners and construction workers in the US, Canada or Australia make? Sure as hell they make more than what their counterparts make over here. Because they have minimum wage and we don't.
Why do you come here to do business? Cannot compete in Europe? We have enough Euro-trash around here, so we dont need anymore sheep-shagging, morals depleted Europeans to come here and fleece us dry.
Are u sure??, i went to USA and the mexicans and those south americans workers are doing the jobs, some got no permit too and dun mind getting less paid then the minimium, i go the europe, and the workers are mostly from eastern europe, the citizens there just go on strike, but it dun work out, cos the boss still have the right to employ them. In the end chao and riot take place.
So instead of keep insisting on a no solution but complain issue here, why not upgrade oneself and make oneself more marketable, if you think sweep floor is taken, go for security officers, hotel staffs, etc etc which need higher skill and language proficiency to a certain extend. It is of no use keeping complaining and complaining but give no solution.
Originally posted by Dy1 brt:This is how you wanna talk, Jojo bitch is the original cock sucker, why you hate the foreigner so much? What have they done to you?
As the saying goes, people who talks bad things about another person is much worst than that person...
I'm done with this, I'm out bye bye jojo bitch! loser!!!
Man!x! singapore ask us to come here... blame your government, not us! Asshole...
Bye bye...
My sista never hate foreigners, she just hate that european businessman who turn ugly. That is all.
Singapore never ask you to come, Singapore just adopt an open door policy, they never invite or force you to come, you come at your own decision, and why you come?? most probably u cannot make it in your own country.
Originally posted by angel7030:My sista never hate foreigners, she just hate that european businessman who turn ugly. That is all.
Singapore never ask you to come, Singapore just adopt an open door policy, they never invite or force you to come, you come at your own decision, and why you come?? most probably u cannot make it in your own country.
Yes sista angel.. his hypocrisy is just disgusting.
Originally posted by Short Ninja:And there you have one pissed off guy from....prolly Sabah.
Originally posted by Dy1 brt:why you hate the foreigner so much? What have they done to you?
You want to know why ? Go ask our gahmen loh !!
Sista angel? Awhile ago you called her european cock sucker... you are a jojo bitch hahaha....
Originally posted by Dy1 brt:This is how you wanna talk, Jojo bitch is the original cock sucker, why you hate the foreigner so much? What have they done to you?
As the saying goes, people who talks bad things about another person is much worst than that person...
I'm done with this, I'm out bye bye jojo bitch! loser!!!
Man!x! singapore ask us to come here... blame your government, not us! Asshole...
Bye bye...
I am sure many can see that jobs like; cleaners,hawker assistants,clinic assistants,nurses,teachers......... (the list can go on and on) are taken up by these "foreign talents".
The reason why many real Singaporean are preeved that their jobs were snatched away by these bastards. And our real lame Government just dont care!!!
I call all true Singaporeans to unite and send our bloodly government a strong signal in the forthcoming election that we had suffered long enough.
Originally posted by Dy1 brt:Sista angel? Awhile ago you called her european cock sucker... you are a jojo bitch hahaha....
huh? did u suck the wrong C@ck?? siao liao
I just found out my Indian Partner got approved for sg citizenship. Congratulations Kumar!!! Soon Singapore will be indian country hoorray!!!
Originally posted by Dy1 brt:I just found out my Indian Partner got approved for sg citizenship. Congratulations Kumar!!! Soon Singapore will be indian country hoorray!!!
Yeah, more indian Co@k sucker coming...yeah!!
Hey angel, Why dont you ask jojo bitch why he called you european cock sucker?
Originally posted by Dy1 brt:Hey angel, Why dont you ask jojo bitch why he called you european cock sucker?
it a she, not he, u can even differential between a he and she, what the co@k are u talking about???
Just accept it.
Most jobs will go to foreigners from now onwards.
Originally posted by angel7030:Are u sure??, i went to USA and the mexicans and those south americans workers are doing the jobs, some got no permit too and dun mind getting less paid then the minimium, i go the europe, and the workers are mostly from eastern europe, the citizens there just go on strike, but it dun work out, cos the boss still have the right to employ them. In the end chao and riot take place.
So instead of keep insisting on a no solution but complain issue here, why not upgrade oneself and make oneself more marketable, if you think sweep floor is taken, go for security officers, hotel staffs, etc etc which need higher skill and language proficiency to a certain extend. It is of no use keeping complaining and complaining but give no solution.
Watch the Discovery Channel show "Kings Of Construction" The workers are definitely not Mexicans. Maybe the Mexican influx is only applicable to states that straddle the Mexican border like L.A.
I just found out my Indian Partner got approved for sg citizenship. Congratulations Kumar!!! Soon Singapore will be indian country hoorray!!!
For a so called "businessman" you are childish and stupid. Singapore citizenship have no value already. Anyway congrats to your "partner", he join the legions of slaves for the Singaporean elites and corporatocracy. And when war comes, i am sure as hell a disenfrenchised ah beng machine gunner will machine gun you lot and hose all of you fuckers to where you belong. Piss off Euro-trash!
Originally posted by Man!x:
For a so called "businessman" you are childish and stupid. Singapore citizenship have no value already. Anyway congrats to your "partner", he join the legions of slaves for the Singaporean elites and corporatocracy. And when war comes, i am sure as hell a disenfrenchised ah beng machine gunner will machine gun you lot and hose all of you fuckers to where you belong. Piss off Euro-trash!
This dipshit is just a European Wannabe lah !
Another one of them Indian guy dreamin of becoming a European passport holder.
I know so many Indians go Europe already start calling themselves "European". LOL !!
Didn't he said bye bye already ?.. still stick around like a love sick puppy.
Fuck you jojo bitch! you dont own this topic your a dipshit too talking trash but cannot do anything, your so jealous with the foreigners because you have a hard life just like that faggot Man!x hahaha
By the way Man!x, when war comes you'll be pissing in your pants because your so scared like a little girl, you faggot hahaha!
Originally posted by Man!x:Watch the Discovery Channel show "Kings Of Construction" The workers are definitely not Mexicans. Maybe the Mexican influx is only applicable to states that straddle the Mexican border like L.A.
No, in heaviest and dangerous industries such as USA oil rigs, u can see full of Africa nationalities there working at 1/3 of a norm USA worker paid, but they still want it, cos it is better than their country.
I go pizza and burgers restaurant in USA, most are run by Colombians, Chileans etc etc..and the farming are using mexicans and america obriginals (red indians). While most america folks are doing supervising, admin, controlling, trade and office jobs, the lower one had gone to foreigner, if not companies cannot match the Chinese or move out to China or some third world asia countries.
Same goes to Europe, recently, the heavy industrial such as construction and shipbuilding in BRitain went to the Albanians and Cezchs...there are lots of protest.
Of course within the construction site, top responsible jobs are given to local with much higher paid, last time when they show Keppel shipyard and PSA, they also feature singaporeans, but in real, u see 100 foreigners against 1 singaporean. The show in Discover or Nat geographic is about construction and building not about foreigner workers migration, so what for they show the foreigner there??