... and Thailand is a strong country with strong people and strong instituitions and a strong culture. So... so what if the airport is closed for a time? The army will step in and get rid of the despots if need be.
....then, they will relinquish power and call for elections. Life goes on and the country is stronger for the experience. Singaporeans are so used to being obedient dogs they find this sooooo scary..... hahaha... the Thais are no dogs.
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
You do not see long term... what we are seing now is only the beginning of Singapore going the way of the Philipines during the Marcos years....
You are the type, what they MP in parliament said: "you dig a toilet hole only after the sh!t is about to come out."
We'll see. ;p
whats gonna happen is.. you will end up like the MP's in some parliament , before the shit comes out , u all line up with the golden tam pui ready , eager beavers.
they wont..there is still no person/organisation to lead the war
Originally posted by BadzMaro:We'll see. ;p
whats gonna happen is.. you will end up like the MP's in some parliament , before the shit comes out , u all line up with the golden tam pui ready , eager beavers.
What are the chances that a Marcos comes into power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Burmese dictatorship come to power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Mao Tse-Tung comes to power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Marcos, Burmese Dictatorship and Mao Tse-Tung destroy Thailand? Almost zero.
........where are you getting these almost zero and high possible percentages from?
Can you show us your formulas before you make such statements?
Originally posted by Stevenson101:........where are you getting these almost zero and high possible percentages from?
Can you show us your formulas before you make such statements?
...logical conclusions...
When Thaksin tries to mess with the mess media, judiciary, police and the military, he faced the wrath of the people. Hundreds of thousands of them on the streets.
When it was known that TT Durai was putting "peanut" amounts of public money into his own pockets, there was an uproar.
When the despots did the same thing, only ten times worse... are still doing it, nothing.
When the despots take massive amounts of public money and lose massive amounts of it to the foreigners, nothing...
In Thailand, the Thai people would have hung TT Durai by his balls and tied him up to a tree instead of letting him get a slap on the wrist just because he is a dog of the despots.
If a despot tried to put his son suffering from cancer of the rectum into position, the Thai people would hang the dishonorable despot by his balls on a tree.
...and how could a Marcos, a Burmese dictatorship and a Mao Tse-Tung come into power and stay in power?
The Thai tertialry students would lay down their lives in defense of the country and the Thai constituition... and the Singapore tertiary students... will listen to their mothers telling them to be good.
With university students willing to lay down their lives, how could a Marcos, a Burmese dictatorship and a Mao Tse-Tung come into power and stay in power?
It's thaThaksin legacy that taints Thai politics.
The next Thai Prime Minister must bring Thaksin to justice. The rest of the political issues is secondary and the PM can use the help of the many special advisers available to him
Wat has he done tat taints the Thai politics ? Bring him to justice for buying a land more than it costs ?
The army acted because the situation (on going protests, then, by hundreds of thousands of Thais) was untenable. They did not, as you said, "behave as they deemed fit" and that is why the Thai people greeted the tanks that rolled into Bangkok with roses.
Your example is really limiting. If Thaksin is so unpopular, and the army is so popular as u claimed, why do the army lose the election big time ? Fact is, the mass majority of the people prefer thaksin or its party to lead thailand by voting for them repeatedly. DO u know that there r 7 political parties, 6 of them agree to form a coalition gov and only the guailan army controlled party is isolated ? Together they formed 60.37 of the population of thailand and the people supporting the coalition gov is 21 million. R u saying your opinion and 10 thousand people is better than the 21 million people of thailand ?
... and Thailand is a strong country with strong people and strong instituitions and a strong culture. So... so what if the airport is closed for a time? The army will step in and get rid of the despots if need be.
Wat happened ? The immediate effect is obviously tat their reputation is wounded, they lose millions daily, potential investors r scared away and so on. The army steps in and who will they fight ? The PAD or the gov. Note tat the present gov is still the side tat is the most popular in Thailand. If they r ousted, there may be a civil war and thailand may fragment to north and south. The economy is gonna suffer because they will be ruled by military rulers for another period of time and everyone knows they suck at ruling. They may implement partial monarchy and thailand ceased to be democratic. Then they will realy have no check and balance as the king chooses the most of the people into the parliament
If they attacked PAD, then they will go more crazy and set off more violent protests and riots. It will bring them closer to civil strife. They will block roads and bridges and airport and create more trouble and more willing to use violence
....then, they will relinquish power and call for elections. Life goes on and the country is stronger for the experience. Singaporeans are so used to being obedient dogs they find this sooooo scary..... hahaha... the Thais are no dogs
U r too optimistic. Wat if the army stay on and Thailand becomes another myanmar ? Wat r the chances of singapore ruled by millitary ? Zero. Wat r the chances of thailand ruled by the military. Damn high and it is logical deduction as well. Wat if the people tat support the gov turn to the streets themselves and fight with PAD ? Wat if no one did any action and the airport is close for months ? These r all possible scenarios now
Finally just a question. DO u really like anarchy and prefer the gov to keep changing, keep fighting and keep bickering and no one can do anything good, then u consider it as an excellent form of governing ? U seems to keep quiet on tis question repeatedly.
Originally posted by googoomuck:For a free and democratic nation to work, a politician must, in the first place and right off the bat, in an honest fashion, convince the electorate that democracy is what they need, if they are to get what they want.
It's thaThaksin legacy that taints Thai politics.
The next Thai Prime Minister must bring Thaksin to justice. The rest of the political issues is secondary and the PM can use the help of the many special advisers available to him.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Wat has he done tat taints the Thai politics ? Bring him to justice for buying a land more than it costs ?
It is really low down of you to cut and paste other people's comments and lump it together with my comments to make it look like it is mine.
But as for what Thaksin did, (I am getting tired of reminding you), Muzzling of the Mass Media, trying to pack the military with his relatives and cronies, interefering with the Judiciary....
Only Silliporeans accepts these dastardly deeds as normal and do not consider the acts as tainting Thai politics.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Your example is really limiting. If Thaksin is so unpopular, and the army is so popular as u claimed, why do the army lose the election big time ? Fact is, the mass majority of the people prefer thaksin or its party to lead thailand by voting for them repeatedly. DO u know that there r 7 political parties, 6 of them agree to form a coalition gov and only the guailan army controlled party is isolated ? Together they formed 60.37 of the population of thailand and the people supporting the coalition gov is 21 million. R u saying your opinion and 10 thousand people is better than the 21 million people of thailand ?
You are suffering from a common fallacy if you think that people putting roses on the tops of tanks for removing Thaksin and ending the protests against Thaksin; it follows that the military will win the elections.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:
Wat happened ? The immediate effect is obviously tat their reputation is wounded, they lose millions daily, potential investors r scared away and so on. The army steps in and who will they fight ? The PAD or the gov. Note tat the present gov is still the side tat is the most popular in Thailand. If they r ousted, there may be a civil war and thailand may fragment to north and south. The economy is gonna suffer because they will be ruled by military rulers for another period of time and everyone knows they suck at ruling. They may implement partial monarchy and thailand ceased to be democratic. Then they will realy have no check and balance as the king chooses the most of the people into the parliament
The puppets (dogs of the despot) can step down if they want the airport reopened. If the Japanese Prime Ministers can do it, I don't see why the Thai dogs of Thaksin cannot.
Their refusal to step down reinforces the fact that they are despots and think that they are the only ones that can rule, justifying the actions of the PAD.
I doubt that the military will be ruling. They needed time to draft the consituition to ensure that the despots have no place in Thai politics and the present pack of Thaksin's dogs want to change the constituition to ensure that they can rule forever without checks and balances.
If the military takes over, they will likely set up an interim civilian government and call for elections. The military is holding back because they prefer the dogs to step down on their own. If they act too fast, they will lose the respect of the common people.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:U r too optimistic. Wat if the army stay on and Thailand becomes another myanmar ? Wat r the chances of singapore ruled by millitary ? Zero. Wat r the chances of thailand ruled by the military. Damn high and it is logical deduction as well. Wat if the people tat support the gov turn to the streets themselves and fight with PAD ? Wat if no one did any action and the airport is close for months ? These r all possible scenarios now
There is a much higher chance of Sillipore becoming another myanmar than it is for Thailand to become a myanmar... see...
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
What are the chances that a Marcos comes into power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Burmese dictatorship come to power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Mao Tse-Tung comes to power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Marcos, Burmese Dictatorship and Mao Tse-Tung destroy Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.I guess you start sh!ting in your pants because it is will be too late for you to dig the hole.
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
...logical conclusions...
When Thaksin tries to mess with the mess media, judiciary, police and the military, he faced the wrath of the people. Hundreds of thousands of them on the streets.
When it was known that TT Durai was putting "peanut" amounts of public money into his own pockets, there was an uproar.
When the despots did the same thing, only ten times worse... are still doing it, nothing.
When the despots take massive amounts of public money and lose massive amounts of it to the foreigners, nothing...
In Thailand, the Thai people would have hung TT Durai by his balls and tied him up to a tree instead of letting him get a slap on the wrist just because he is a dog of the despots.
If a despot tried to put his son suffering from cancer of the rectum into position, the Thai people would hang the dishonorable despot by his balls on a tree.
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
...and how could a Marcos, a Burmese dictatorship and a Mao Tse-Tung come into power and stay in power?
The Thai tertialry students would lay down their lives in defense of the country and the Thai constituition... and the Singapore tertiary students... will listen to their mothers telling them to be good.
With university students willing to lay down their lives, how could a Marcos, a Burmese dictatorship and a Mao Tse-Tung come into power and stay in power?
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
It is really low down of you to cut and paste other people's comments and lump it together with my comments to make it look like it is mine.
But as for what Thaksin did, (I am getting tired of reminding you), Muzzling of the Mass Media, trying to pack the military with his relatives and cronies, interefering with the Judiciary....
Only Silliporeans accepts these dastardly deeds as normal and do not consider the acts as tainting Thai politics.
...and do not forget the Shincorp saga.
Originally posted by stupidissmart:Finally just a question. DO u really like anarchy and prefer the gov to keep changing, keep fighting and keep bickering and no one can do anything good, then u consider it as an excellent form of governing ? U seems to keep quiet on tis question repeatedly.
Again, look at Japan... the prime ministers step down willingly because they are not despots. Japan is up there at the top. The robotic age will likely be led by Japan and the USA.
After all these troubles, Thailand will be another Japan with a strong country and a strong people and a strong economy and they will forever be a proud people... unlike... the despot run sillipore that can become another myanmar or north korea any time
Do you think the very high number of people wanting to escape from sillipore are idiots? They are the people with resources and as a group they have to be intelligent to be able to acquire the resources to escape SILLIPORE.
Originally posted by googoomuck:...and do not forget the Shincorp saga.
...Sillipore, nepotism and cronyism... and Silliporeans like this one, thinks nothing of it....
...and silliporeans like this one ... do not think that "someone's ass be a problem"
Originally posted by the Bear:
where else would someone's ass be a problem?
only in the mind of foaming rabid idiots..
try again...
he's got a lot of other things wrong with HIS POLICIES... don't look at his ass... that's the property of his husband's
unless you're secretly also lusting after his ass
...do not find anything wrong when a despot practising nepotism puts his asson with rectum cancer up there. Now SILLIPOREANS and SILLIPORE are suffering for keeping quiet.
Singapore so need Dr Chee Soon Juan to save her from these type of Silliporeans.
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
What are the chances that a Marcos comes into power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Burmese dictatorship come to power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Mao Tse-Tung comes to power in Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.
What are the chances that a Marcos, Burmese Dictatorship and Mao Tse-Tung destroy Thailand? Almost zero.
Singapore? Highly possible.I guess you start sh!ting in your pants because it is will be too late for you to dig the hole.
-_-" from Thailand to Singapore. I thought we talking about Thailand , unless u are refering to my statement about Sinagpore.
But sg so small.. population small as ... Marcos coming to sg highly probably due to the population also but given the development and education, its just a matter or time before sg can achieve full democracy. Why not just give it some time. Sure you see some changes now already.
Channel News Asia news footage shows that instead of the police handling the prostesters, it's the protesters who manhandle & bundle the policeman into a car. And when the poor policeman comes back to claim his police vehicle after he is released by the protesters a while later, he finds the vehicle 4 tyres are punctured.
Thailand land of a thousand smiles alias Thailand land of a thousand laughing stocks to the whole world.
lol.. actually its quite funny how the protestors handle the police.
If it was in korea.. it wouldve been totally different. lol!
t is really low down of you to cut and paste other people's comments and lump it together with my comments to make it look like it is mine.
My practise is to reply to the replies regardless of who they r from in a single reply. Furthermore wat he said is really similar to your point of view
But as for what Thaksin did, (I am getting tired of reminding you), Muzzling of the Mass Media, trying to pack the military with his relatives and cronies, interefering with the Judiciary....
Since u state tis, please show evidence or link to the above accusations
You are suffering from a common fallacy if you think that people putting roses on the tops of tanks for removing Thaksin and ending the protests against Thaksin; it follows that the military will win the elections.
Nah... the thing is u first comment tat whether my comment is better than the thousands of people who had go for protest and use numbers against me. I just told u he is the more popular choice and the number of people tat think similarly to me is actually much more than tis thousands of people. So if u want to talk about numbers, u clearly r on the losing side
The puppets (dogs of the despot) can step down if they want the airport reopened. If the Japanese Prime Ministers can do it, I don't see why the Thai dogs of Thaksin cannot.
I think it is a bit silly to link japan and thailand together. The japane prime minister stepped down because THEIR OWN PARTY want them to step down. They r not popular and their approval rating is very very very low (<30). Furthermore Abe stepped down due to health reason. If the prime minister is popular, such as koizumi before, he stick his way through the whole period. If everyone just step down because of a minority protests, u had failed the people who had voted for u, and u had failed the democracy in the country by letting it become a partial monarchy. And obviously countries like spain etc have to change prime minister every few weeks since they always have such protests against their gov.
There is a much higher chance of Sillipore becoming another myanmar than it is for Thailand to become a myanmar... see...
I think u should realised tat I written the comment in a similar way as wat u had written because I had read your opinion. U suggest before to let the military take control of the country first. Wat if the military never let go of control tis time ? Tis is possible too especially if the crisis become very violent and sporadic throughout the country. They can very well use the reason of country unity and stay there for many years... then they becomes the norm and sty on for another few decades. Tis is similar to your logical deduction by linking one thing to another.
Lastly do u know wat is the biggest problem of Mao and Marcos ? They cause their country to perform badly at economy.
...and do not forget the Shincorp saga.
And wat is wrong with the shincorp saga ? After years of investigation, no charges were ever pressed against them and they had comply with all the necessary rules. The corruption of shincorp selling to temasek is really like the WMD in iraq. It never exist
Look, Andrew, all you really care about is to see chaos, mayhem and bloodshed, and then use it as a parellel to incite our singaporeans to do the same to topple our elected government, all these because of your personel hatred for one man in the govt.
Your arguements and logic are lopsided, squewed and intersped with half truths, filled with lies and conspiracies theories.
You never really cared what happens to any economy. You never really care about the poor or even the rich and what they do. You never care about anything at all.
All you want is to see one man whom you hate to the core fall, from the comfort of your chair at home through instigations on the more naive and discontented amongst us in cyber space.
My they be able to discern who you and your kind really are and what your kind really stand for after stripping away the rhetoric and carefully anaylzing your thoughts and manner of rationality conceptualisation.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:lol.. actually its quite funny how the protestors handle the police.
If it was in korea.. it wouldve been totally different. lol!
Talk about the Korean riot police, they are a vast difference from the way they handle the situation. I have seen some news footages of riots/protests in Korea aired by CNN & BBC & they really handled the problem in a professional, systematic & well planned manner.
Coming back to the topic, actually what is foremost in my mind is the impending disaster/mess/suffering awaiting the ordinary folks in particular & the country in general. With the on going chaos created by certain factions, the saddest & most tragic part is that they never realise or dont know or dont care that what they are doing will have very serious consequences for all.
it's ironical that PAD represents support from the King, army and certain opposition members. Their efforts to bring misery to the people is supposedly meant to be for the good of the people.
I sympathise the hard working people and the poor people for their misery and struggle when the economy is going through hard times.
The King is purportedly a wise man. He is indeed rich and living a comfortable life. His people, his innocent people, still love their King.