GIC invests $14 billion in Swiss bank UBS
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That's what your limited intellect permits you to think and it isn't exactly a very clever ploy at masking your inadequacies of an unrivalled propensity for self-contradiction...Originally posted by Gazelle:walesa, it is obvious that you only talk about stock price isnt it? May I suggest that you join AndrewYap to be our daily reporter of stock market..
knn...talk so much cock for what if you dont know how to fcuk..
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... and he can't even tell the difference between a reporter and a news commentator...
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you want to show us you are smart? Why not answer to my questions instead of always blowing yourself?Originally posted by walesa:That's what your limited intellect permits you to think and it isn't exactly a very clever ploy at masking your inadequacies of an unrivalled propensity for self-contradiction...
1) For Barclays investment, would you have predicted that RBS will pip Barclays in acquiring ABN Amro during the time when Temasek was planning to make the investment?
2) Suppose if Barclays submitted a higher bid than RBS in taking over ABN Amro, will that benefit Barclays stock price especially if we take into consideration ABN's billions worth of subprime related investment.
3) Is stock price the only yardstick to measure the value of Barclays investment? What about their track record in profit growth, dividend yield, and strategic benefits to enhance Singapore's position as financial hub? -
China investment fund just bought about 9% stake in Morgan Stanley, a company that just annouced US$3.6b quarterly lost.
what is your comment on that Walesa? Are they stupid? -
How would you know if I'm smart when you aren't even sober enough to stop contradicting yourself?Originally posted by Gazelle:you want to show us you are smart? Why not answer to my questions instead of always blowing yourself?
1) For Barclays investment, would you have predicted that RBS will pip Barclays in acquiring ABN Amro during the time when Temasek was planning to make the investment?
2) Suppose if Barclays submitted a higher bid than RBS in taking over ABN Amro, will that benefit Barclays stock price especially if we take into consideration ABN's billions worth of subprime related investment.
3) Is stock price the only yardstick to measure the value of Barclays investment? What about their track record in profit growth, dividend yield, and strategic benefits to enhance Singapore's position as financial hub? -
Why not answer to my questions instead of always blowing yourself?
1) For Barclays investment, would you have predicted that RBS will pip Barclays in acquiring ABN Amro during the time when Temasek was planning to make the investment?
2) Suppose if Barclays submitted a higher bid than RBS in taking over ABN Amro, will that benefit Barclays stock price especially if we take into consideration ABN's billions worth of subprime related investment.
3) Is stock price the only yardstick to measure the value of Barclays investment? What about their track record in profit growth, dividend yield, and strategic benefits to enhance Singapore's position as financial hub? -
omg Gazelle ur siggy.
U must be still angry with Eagle after he crossed sword with you on an earlier SC's thread right? -
There were 2 threads, and in the 2nd thread, he had constantly avoided my challenge to prove his extremely shallow thinking, poor research and analysis skill. Ironic he's trying to extract answers from his questions now, after having continuously avoided my challengeOriginally posted by Spartans:omg Gazelle ur siggy.
U must be still angry with Eagle after he crossed sword with you on an earlier SC's thread right? -
I'm still waiting for you to clarify your self-contradiction before I commence on my case...Originally posted by Gazelle:Why not answer to my questions instead of always blowing yourself?
1) For Barclays investment, would you have predicted that RBS will pip Barclays in acquiring ABN Amro during the time when Temasek was planning to make the investment?
2) Suppose if Barclays submitted a higher bid than RBS in taking over ABN Amro, will that benefit Barclays stock price especially if we take into consideration ABN's billions worth of subprime related investment.
3) Is stock price the only yardstick to measure the value of Barclays investment? What about their track record in profit growth, dividend yield, and strategic benefits to enhance Singapore's position as financial hub? -
where is the self contradiction may i ask.... please kindly point out to me.Originally posted by walesa:I'm still waiting for you to clarify your self-contradiction before I commence on my case... -
Have you been following this thread? Lest you haven't, check out my post at 19 December 2007 · 11:04 AM.Originally posted by tripwire:where is the self contradiction may i ask.... please kindly point out to me. -
Link is hereOriginally posted by walesa:Have you been following this thread? Lest you haven't, check out my post at 19 December 2007 · 11:04 AM. -
Walesa,
By quoting what I said, it only goes to show that your perception of Temasek and GIC investment is like speculating on the stock markets where you can enter and exit anytime you want whenever the stock price is favourable. Beside talking about stock price, you have also failed to understand the longterm and strategic benefit in the investment.
If Temasek and GIC were to practise your speculative style of short term investment, GIC funds would have been long gone and they would have been banned from buying into blue chip companies long time ago.
By quoting the below statement, it only shows that you dont take into consideration the sequence of events that happened before and after the investment. Like I have said, armchair critics are only capable for demostrating how smart they are AFTER the event, not before.Originally posted by Gazelle:If you dont intend and need to cash out your investment, there is really no need to worry about that. Companies like UBS and Barclays are very well run companies and they will be able to ride out the storm.
As Warren Buffet said, when he buy into the company, he would like to hold on to it forever and his company's result speaks for itself.Originally posted by Gazelle:When Temasek and GIC make such a huge investment, you can rest assure that they would have seek investment banks to do countless round of valuation on their investment before making the plunge.
If you want to comment or criticise their overall investment strategy, please use quantifiable facts to support your argument, not words like "Could" -
Funny how nobody gives the government credit when GIC and Temasek make money but rather castigate them for earning too much. Yet when any investment turns sour, these armchair critics will bay for blood....If the GIC earns millions from the Swiss bank deal, wonder where will these critics say next
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It's equally funny how nincompoops choose to extol the merits of a hypothetical best-case scenario for a forlorn cause of action which has abundantly failed to withstand the test of time in reality. It must just be sheer coincidence that such losses are generated with far greater frequency than profits.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Funny how nobody gives the government credit when GIC and Temasek make money but rather castigate them for earning too much. Yet when any investment turns sour, these armchair critics will bay for blood....If the GIC earns millions from the Swiss bank deal, wonder where will these critics say next -
And how does that address your self-contradictory tendencies? So are all long-term investments still worthwhile regardless of the opportunity cost? Or did Temasek broker the deal of the millennium with their Barclays venture?Originally posted by Gazelle:Walesa,
By quoting what I said, it only goes to show that your perception of Temasek and GIC investment is like speculating on the stock markets where you can enter and exit anytime you want whenever the stock price is favourable. Beside talking about stock price, you have also failed to understand the longterm and strategic benefit in the investment.
If Temasek and GIC were to practise your speculative style of short term investment, GIC funds would have been long gone and they would have been banned from buying into blue chip companies long time ago.
Getting any closer to figuring which side of the fence you'd rather sit on? -
Self-contradictory?Originally posted by walesa:And how does that address your self-contradictory tendencies? So are all long-term investments still worthwhile regardless of the opportunity cost? Or did Temasek broker the deal of the millennium with their Barclays venture?
Getting any closer to figuring which side of the fence you'd rather sit on?
1) What other opportunities do you have in mind that will yield better returns than Barclays in the medium and long term?
2) Do you think buying a big stake into bluechip company with about US$2 trillion in asset and capable of generating about S$22 billion profit a year, is not an OPPORTUNITY?
Over to you Mr. Wanker!! -
I'm laughing at Gazelle not wanting to answer my question, yet wants others to answer his questions
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Eagle,Originally posted by eagle:I'm laughing at Gazelle not wanting to answer my question, yet wants others to answer his questions
Which one you talking about?
How to HOLD on to a gf that is leaving you?
How to get your gf to have sex with you?
How to know if a girl like you?
How to ask a girl out for a date?
How to grow your muscles?
How to look manly?
How to have $50,000 savings in your account (AS A STUDENT) while your dad has to withdraw CPF money to fund his white horse prince education? -
Gazelle,Originally posted by Gazelle:Eagle,
Which one you talking about?
How to HOLD on to a gf that is leaving you?
How to get your gf to have sex with you?
How to know if a girl like you?
How to ask a girl out for a date?
How to grow your muscles?
How to look manly?
How to have $50,000 savings in your account (AS A STUDENT) while your dad has to withdraw CPF money to fund his white horse prince education?
Are you to admit you are a loser is I can prove to you the CPF withdrawal? This is the one you have yet to answer. You have not answered this question for many times.
Anyway, the other questions are all ok to me, not to mention the fact that you prefer to understand things the idiotic and perverted way. It shows the life of a normal guy, not of a perverted one who likes only soiled things.
I will take it that if you do not answer, you have only admitted the poor research and analysis skills you possess, in addition to you being prone to selective understanding.
You should be ashamed of yourself for not being able to answer a simple related question.
I shall conclude asking you the question again:
Are you to admit you are a loser is I can prove to you the CPF withdrawal? -
As usual, it can be predicted that Gazelle will not answer the question in red above. Because by answering, it will only show his ineptitude and intelligence as large as an atom.
In that sense, does he have the right to question others? -
1) Since when did I ever question you about your lau peh's CPF withdrawal?Originally posted by eagle:Gazelle,
Are you to admit you are a loser is I can prove to you the CPF withdrawal? This is the one you have yet to answer. You have not answered this question for many times.
Anyway, the other questions are all ok to me. It shows the life of a normal guy, not of a perverted one who likes only soiled things.
I will take it that if you do not answer, you have only admitted the poor research and analysis skills you possess, in addition to you being prone to selective understanding.
You should be ashamed of yourself for not being able to answer a simple related question.
I shall conclude asking you the question again:
Are you to admit you are a loser is I can prove to you the CPF withdrawal?
2) Have you know that we are all laughing at your claim that you have $50,000 sitting in your bank account while you lau peh has to withdraw $24,000 from his CPF account?
3) We are laughing at your claim that your dad's intention of withdrawing $24,000 from his CPF is not to finance his white horse prince but because he can make $9.80 per month.
Eagle, are you trying to embarrass yourself by showing the CPF statement?
Do you know what is call a Bai Jia Zi? -
1) Are you up to the challenge that you have questioned before about the CPF withdrawal for school fees?Originally posted by Gazelle:1) Since when did I ever question you about your lau peh's CPF withdrawal?
2) Have you know that we are all laughing at your claim that you have $50,000 sitting in your bank account while you lau peh has to withdraw $24,000 from his CPF account?
3) We are laughing at your claim that your dad's intention of withdrawing $24,000 from his CPF is not to finance his white horse prince but because he can make $9.80 per month.
Eagle, are you trying to embarrass yourself by showing the CPF statement?
Do you know what is call a Bai Jia Zi?
2) Are you to admit the loser in you if I can prove you wrong? Are you?
3) Are you to admit the loser in you if I can prove you wrong? Are you?
Can you answer the questions above? Or are just plain afraid of being proven a total Wo Nang Fei (if you even know what it is) -
Gazelle, dun need to talk big if you cannot do even simple maths you know?
You also haven't answer
Are you to admit that your analysis is so poor that you can't calculate I can gain $12.5k from the scholarship?
Are you ready to answer? -
Eagle,Originally posted by eagle:1) Are you up to the challenge that you have questioned before about the CPF withdrawal for school fees?
2) Are you to admit the loser in you if I can prove you wrong? Are you?
3) Are you to admit the loser in you if I can prove you wrong? Are you?
Can you answer the questions above? Or are just plain afraid of being proven a total Wo Nang Fei (if you even know what it is)
I am actually quite puzzle as to why you suddenly want to talk about me questioning your lau peh CPF when I have been telling everbody in this forum that you are a Bai Jia Zi who dare to claim that you have $50,000 in your bank account (AS A STUDENT) while you lau peh has to withdraw his hard earn CPF to finance his white horse prince education.
Are you stupid or what?